Campbell or Brunell in 2006?

Redskins_P · 01-20-2006, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckmcco

mark brunell was not the reason we made the playoffs this season. anyone else notice that his TD's a lot of the time were receivers making the plays after they caught the ball. he didnt play better this year than he did last year, other players made plays last year they werent makign the year before, and santana came in and was an animal. please. give me jason campbell please.

Aren't receivers supposed to make plays after the catch anyways? All the good QB's in the NFL have a good cast surrounding them.

firstdown · 01-20-2006, 04:09 PM

Campbell will not start or play next season unless we are out of the playoff hunt. Ramsey has a better chance of playing for us next season than Campbell. With Saunders coming in it might be good news for Ramsey by opening up some QB compitition. Brunell is the starter but I think that the coaches will look at alot of game film to determine wether Brunell can carry this team for another year. I would love to see us keep Ramsey for another year and see how he plays in preseason. I am not a hugh Ramsey fan but I do feel he has learned more this season on the sidelines than he had in all his past seasons. We have alot of great coaches and I have faith they will make the best decisions for our team.

Schneed10 · 01-20-2006, 04:21 PM

Also, in 2004 Brunell took 15 sacks in the half season he played. In the other half of that season, Ramsey took 23 sacks. And Ramsey even had the benefit of playing behind an offensive line that was starting to gel at the end of the season.

The fumble rates of Brunell and Ramsey are not much different from each other. But the INT and sack rates are in Brunell's favor big-time. Sacks kill drives, when you lose 7 yards on a play, your chances of making a first down are very slim. You end up punting. INTs don't even give you a chance to gain any field position by punting.

Brunell is our best option going into next year. It's possible Campbell could be really good at taking care of the football, and I'll give him a chance to prove that to me. But usually young guys get intercepted. I say let him be the backup as long as Brunell is still good at managing an offense.

724Skinsfan · 01-20-2006, 04:31 PM

I voted for Campbell but realistically I wouldn't commit to either one until after at least the first two pre-season games. If Campbell looks good, might as well let him start. Brunell saved us in a couple of games with his scrambling on 3rd and long. If Campbell can keep drives alive as much as Brunell (admittedly not that often) then he should go ahead and start. Maybe I'll change my opinion at Fan Aapreciation Day.

Battlecatt · 01-21-2006, 10:56 AM

Campbell in the 1# slot will gives the team the best chance to win. There is no reason to wait if Campbell is ready to take the wheel. Brunell must admit he has lost a step and should be ready to take the roll of veteran backup.

CHUBAKAH · 01-21-2006, 01:09 PM

May the best QB come out on top in training camp next season. I'll support either Campbell or Brunell, but would like to see the future sooner rather than later.

Kaybee_7 · 01-21-2006, 05:56 PM

I'd like to have Campbell in just to see if he's good or not. If he isnt, then Brunell should be qb.

Redskin · 01-22-2006, 02:10 AM

Cambell needs to get the exp in sometime. He was a great investment that cant be let go to waist. Brunnel should be more then happy to teach the youngin how to play who knows we may have a peyton manning on our hands and were playing brunnel

TheMalcolmConnection · 01-23-2006, 02:13 PM

I voted for Campbell, not because I think Brunell is bad, but because it's time to start working on the future. If Saunders can run some plays that rejuvenate Brunell, then that's great, but as of now, I just feel that Brunell doesn't look to the open receiver.

Do I think we can win with him? Yes.

I also think we can win with Jason Campbell if anything that the coaching staff has said so far is accurate.

Twilbert07 · 01-23-2006, 02:18 PM

Exactly. Look at Pittsburgh. They started their young QB last year, and now he's heading to the Super Bowl at age 23.

Monksdown · 01-23-2006, 02:25 PM

I dont think you will find many coaches, that short of injury to the vet with those numbers, would agree with you.

And I love you to death, but when you spend billions of dollars on something, and you have a million+ people counting on you. I wouldn't be able to go to sleep whispering to myself, "if ben roethlisburger did it, then so can Jason." Ben is a statistical wack job. You simply can never expect something even close to that.

I dont discount that you could be right, but id say there is probably a 90-98% chance, you are way off.

When somebody performs as advertised, you do not pull him. You do not pull him. I wish Mark was my daddy.

We are building for the Divison Title, and the Superbowl next year. By starting your unproven, no experienced qb, your new goal is to be above .500, and then the playoffs. Mark is playoff bound again next year, homies.

Monksdown · 01-23-2006, 02:26 PM

and where were you the last 6 months?

RMSkins · 01-23-2006, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Monksdown

I dont think you will find many coaches, that short of injury to the vet with those numbers, would agree with you.

And I love you to death, but when you spend billions of dollars on something, and you have a million+ people counting on you. I wouldn't be able to go to sleep whispering to myself, "if ben roethlisburger did it, then so can Jason." Ben is a statistical wack job. You simply can never expect something even close to that.

I dont discount that you could be right, but id say there is probably a 90-98% chance, you are way off.

When somebody performs as advertised, you do not pull him. You do not pull him. I wish Mark was my daddy.

We are building for the Divison Title, and the Superbowl next year. By starting your unproven, no experienced qb, your new goal is to be above .500, and then the playoffs. Mark is playoff bound again next year, homies.

I completely agree with this Brunell should be our starter for 2006, Brunell should be even better with a legitimate #2 receiver, I think Brunell gives us the best shot at a SB next year. As for Campbell I believe that he will be a great player in the future for us but as for next year Brunell should start and Campbell should wait another year.

offiss · 01-23-2006, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I voted for Campbell, not because I think Brunell is bad, but because it's time to start working on the future. If Saunders can run some plays that rejuvenate Brunell, then that's great, but as of now, I just feel that Brunell doesn't look to the open receiver.

Do I think we can win with him? Yes.

I also think we can win with Jason Campbell if anything that the coaching staff has said so far is accurate.

He doesn't look to the third option, why? Because that takes a little longer which means your going to probably get hit and Brunell at his age no longer can take the hit, that was the knock on him when we traded for him around the NFL, they felt he was no longer was willing to hold the ball because he was afraid to be hit.

azskinsfan2 · 01-23-2006, 04:37 PM

I voted Campbell, but I just want to be in the playoffs again, whoever can get us there. Coach Gibbs will make the right decision. Campbell may still be a year away.

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01-20-2006, 04:21 PM	#3
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 46 Posts: 12,458	Re: Campbell or Brunell in 2006? Also, in 2004 Brunell took 15 sacks in the half season he played. In the other half of that season, Ramsey took 23 sacks. And Ramsey even had the benefit of playing behind an offensive line that was starting to gel at the end of the season. The fumble rates of Brunell and Ramsey are not much different from each other. But the INT and sack rates are in Brunell's favor big-time. Sacks kill drives, when you lose 7 yards on a play, your chances of making a first down are very slim. You end up punting. INTs don't even give you a chance to gain any field position by punting. Brunell is our best option going into next year. It's possible Campbell could be really good at taking care of the football, and I'll give him a chance to prove that to me. But usually young guys get intercepted. I say let him be the backup as long as Brunell is still good at managing an offense.

01-20-2006, 04:31 PM	#4
724Skinsfan Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 3,508	Re: Campbell or Brunell in 2006? I voted for Campbell but realistically I wouldn't commit to either one until after at least the first two pre-season games. If Campbell looks good, might as well let him start. Brunell saved us in a couple of games with his scrambling on 3rd and long. If Campbell can keep drives alive as much as Brunell (admittedly not that often) then he should go ahead and start. Maybe I'll change my opinion at Fan Aapreciation Day.

01-21-2006, 10:56 AM	#5
Battlecatt Camp Scrub Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 20	Re: Campbell or Brunell in 2006? Campbell in the 1# slot will gives the team the best chance to win. There is no reason to wait if Campbell is ready to take the wheel. Brunell must admit he has lost a step and should be ready to take the roll of veteran backup.

01-21-2006, 01:09 PM	#6
CHUBAKAH Camp Scrub Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 23	Re: Campbell or Brunell in 2006? May the best QB come out on top in training camp next season. I'll support either Campbell or Brunell, but would like to see the future sooner rather than later. __________________ Going to an away game this season? www.redskin-roadtrips.com

01-20-2006, 04:09 PM	#2
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 62 Posts: 15,817	Re: Campbell or Brunell in 2006? Campbell will not start or play next season unless we are out of the playoff hunt. Ramsey has a better chance of playing for us next season than Campbell. With Saunders coming in it might be good news for Ramsey by opening up some QB compitition. Brunell is the starter but I think that the coaches will look at alot of game film to determine wether Brunell can carry this team for another year. I would love to see us keep Ramsey for another year and see how he plays in preseason. I am not a hugh Ramsey fan but I do feel he has learned more this season on the sidelines than he had in all his past seasons. We have alot of great coaches and I have faith they will make the best decisions for our team.

01-21-2006, 05:56 PM	#7
Kaybee_7 Camp Scrub Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: MTL Age: 48 Posts: 11	Re: Campbell or Brunell in 2006? I'd like to have Campbell in just to see if he's good or not. If he isnt, then Brunell should be qb. __________________ Screw everyone who thought Redskins were not gonna make the playoffs

01-22-2006, 02:10 AM	#8
Redskin Impact Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: University of South Carolina Age: 37 Posts: 577	Re: Campbell or Brunell in 2006? Cambell needs to get the exp in sometime. He was a great investment that cant be let go to waist. Brunnel should be more then happy to teach the youngin how to play who knows we may have a peyton manning on our hands and were playing brunnel

01-23-2006, 02:13 PM	#9
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: Campbell or Brunell in 2006? I voted for Campbell, not because I think Brunell is bad, but because it's time to start working on the future. If Saunders can run some plays that rejuvenate Brunell, then that's great, but as of now, I just feel that Brunell doesn't look to the open receiver. Do I think we can win with him? Yes. I also think we can win with Jason Campbell if anything that the coaching staff has said so far is accurate. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

01-23-2006, 02:18 PM	#10
Twilbert07 Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Age: 61 Posts: 594	Re: Campbell or Brunell in 2006? Exactly. Look at Pittsburgh. They started their young QB last year, and now he's heading to the Super Bowl at age 23. __________________ a Skins fan every day, every way.

01-23-2006, 02:25 PM	#11
Monksdown The Starter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Warrenton, Virginia Age: 45 Posts: 1,515	Re: Campbell or Brunell in 2006? I dont think you will find many coaches, that short of injury to the vet with those numbers, would agree with you. And I love you to death, but when you spend billions of dollars on something, and you have a million+ people counting on you. I wouldn't be able to go to sleep whispering to myself, "if ben roethlisburger did it, then so can Jason." Ben is a statistical wack job. You simply can never expect something even close to that. I dont discount that you could be right, but id say there is probably a 90-98% chance, you are way off. When somebody performs as advertised, you do not pull him. You do not pull him. I wish Mark was my daddy. We are building for the Divison Title, and the Superbowl next year. By starting your unproven, no experienced qb, your new goal is to be above .500, and then the playoffs. Mark is playoff bound again next year, homies.

01-23-2006, 02:26 PM	#12
Monksdown The Starter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Warrenton, Virginia Age: 45 Posts: 1,515	Re: Campbell or Brunell in 2006? and where were you the last 6 months?

01-23-2006, 04:37 PM	#15
azskinsfan2 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tucson, Arizona Age: 69 Posts: 232	Re: Campbell or Brunell in 2006? I voted Campbell, but I just want to be in the playoffs again, whoever can get us there. Coach Gibbs will make the right decision. Campbell may still be a year away. __________________ Long live Sonny J!!! Rock on Redskins!!!!!!

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