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Old 10-23-2006, 07:25 PM   #61
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The irony is that it's mainly because of Gibbs and the great glory years he brought us that many of are upset now. Had we never known what he and this team could and has accomplished we may not feel the way we do now.
you're absolutely right. if we didn't know better, we could be comparing his coaching style to Norv Turner's!

but we DO know better, we do...
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Old 10-23-2006, 07:27 PM   #62
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Re: Joe And Vinny Must Go.

clearly firing the owner is out of the question.
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Old 10-23-2006, 07:35 PM   #63
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Starting over isn't a bad idea, if we keep this Offensive line together and start over in every other area, it might not take more than a season to get things together. We are in a worse position than square one right now, we LOST to the Titans, who arent even to square one right now. We got nothing goin for us currently, starting over is the way to go. liquidate the defense and skill positions and invest in draft picks, very simple.
Why would they blow up the offense when all they need is a QB who can throw between the numbers. Saunders said it himself that with Brunell they are limited.

The defense needs more work than an O. Just bring in some young D-line talent and another middle linebacker (possibly a legit corner) and you are good.

Doc Walker had a great point today. If they needed a good corner to keep the defense competitive, why they hell didn't they sign Ty Law?

We sign Archuletta and Carter to huge contracts when we could have had the best cover corner on the market.

Just another example of why we have the worst front office in football.
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Old 10-23-2006, 07:46 PM   #64
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Re: Joe And Vinny Must Go.

this thread is retarded. i see the title of the thread and have to think, "gibbs must go, but i'm a fan" go shit in your hat.
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Old 10-23-2006, 07:49 PM   #65
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Re: Joe And Vinny Must Go.

I say keep Joe as the coach but remove him from all personnel decisions.
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Old 10-23-2006, 07:52 PM   #66
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Why would they blow up the offense when all they need is a QB who can throw between the numbers. Saunders said it himself that with Brunell they are limited.

The defense needs more work than an O. Just bring in some young D-line talent and another middle linebacker (possibly a legit corner) and you are good.

Doc Walker had a great point today. If they needed a good corner to keep the defense competitive, why they hell didn't they sign Ty Law?

We sign Archuletta and Carter to huge contracts when we could have had the best cover corner on the market.

Just another example of why we have the worst front office in football.
I don't think they were expecting Springs to be so seriously hurt and for Rogers to regress and for Wright to struggle so much either
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Old 10-23-2006, 07:52 PM   #67
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i say this i joe gibbs team and he has earned the respect to give him as much time as it takes. leave the idea of gibbs leaving alone.
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Old 10-23-2006, 07:53 PM   #68
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I say keep Joe as the coach but remove him from all personnel decisions.
Sort of like the Seahawks did with Holmgren. My feeling though is that Gibbs wouldn't accept that.
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Old 10-24-2006, 02:59 PM   #69
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Re: Joe And Vinny Must Go.

This thread is so f-ing rediculous...I would not fire Gibbs if it were a 100% certainty that they would win next years Super Bowl as a result. It's just not worth it to me...Gibbs is the Redskins in my eyes.
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Sort of like the Seahawks did with Holmgren. My feeling though is that Gibbs wouldn't accept that.
You know at this point, it's not about what JG would accept. It's about what's best for the Washington Redskins! We need a real GM! HAIL from MCUSA!
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You know at this point, it's not about what JG would accept. It's about what's best for the Washington Redskins! We need a real GM! HAIL from MCUSA!
Gibbs is not the GM...he's coach and team president. Vinny & the other scouts have much more to do with the overall roster than Gibbs does. I am sure Gibbs hand picked MB and JC but he is not acting as GM here. They do need to fire Vinny and get a GM but that has nothing to do with Gibbs job...
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Vinny really doesn't have any power anymore, he hasn't since Gibbs came back. He's a scout and helps in player evaluation. Getting rid of him won't accomplish much at all.

As for the neverending GM thing, if Gibbs wanted a GM I'm sure Snyder would gladly sign a check for anyone that he wanted. But Gibbs has repeatedly said that he's happy with the personnel decision process as it currently is.
You are correct about the gm / and evaluating . But I do believe if this team is going to win year in & year out , that Synder is going to have to tell Gibbs that he is hiring a Gm and the Gm will make ALL personel decisions . Gibbs is to willing to throw away too many draft picks for average players all to often . I hope Dan can get the Steelers or Patriots ,,, even Baltimores GM and build a strong team . For now ,,, lets just kick the cowboys ass !
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Old 10-24-2006, 09:48 PM   #73
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Gibbs is the CEO and Vinny is a joke. The three stooges are killing this team{GIBBS<VINNY>LITTLE DANNY} They all should be fired.
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Old 10-24-2006, 09:52 PM   #74
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Re: Joe And Vinny Must Go.

Funny thing....if we all of a sudden go on a 5 game winning streak....you guys calling for Gibbs' head will be lickin' his feet. So many turncoats...so little time.
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Funny thing....if we all of a sudden go on a 5 game winning streak....you guys calling for Gibbs' head will be lickin' his feet. So many turncoats...so little time.
If they go on a 5 game win streak it won't be with the 8 car and if 17 was that good, anyone who kept him on the bench should retire.

If they go on a 5 game win streak I will lick Greg Williams' feet because the only way they could do that is if the D does a 180.
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