Fahrenheit 9/11

cpayne5 · 07-01-2004, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Sammy Baugh Fan

lol

"I won't be in anyone's movie but my own." - M. Moore

He's a pathetic PUD.

What goes around, comes around.

peace
mike

Yeah, and then they listed the 10 or so movies that he had been in that he didn't direct.

Sammy Baugh Fan · 07-01-2004, 11:14 AM

ALERT!!!!
Michael Moore's NUMBER 1 Supporter was on TV this morning!

http://www.nagshead.net/michaelmooresupporter.jpg

Bwhahaha!

Trudat boo!

skinsfanthru&thru · 07-01-2004, 03:55 PM

hey all, I was told about a book they were talking about on cnn yesterday thats being released by the same publisher who released the encyclopedia sized bill clinton memoires. The new book being released is abouting killing President Bush and even how to do it. I think this is probably one of the most disgusting things I've ever heard about. I don't care if it's "political satire" as they r trying to say it is, because u know there r people in the extreme who will take what the book says to heart and might possibly try to do as the book says. I mean what the hell is wrong with our country when we are publishing books about why and how to kill individual people. This is just as bad as that assasin handbook that was in the news a few years ago except with one extremely high level target.

That Guy · 07-02-2004, 04:58 PM

theres lots of idiots doing stupid shit, i'd be kinda surprised if a major publisher would print it, but i've heard of stranger things...

offiss · 07-05-2004, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

Don't forget the US mass grave newsweek reported where we ship "prisoner" (mostly locals that haven't done anything wrong) in airtight crates and there are always a few the suffocate each trip.

Also, there were plenty of connections between the Bush's and Osama in the mid 90's. And the US even trained and supplied Osama even earlier than that. As long as he's killing Russians, we're down with terrorists, right?

The reason he'd sue Michael Moore is this is a huge movie, if he could discredit it they would do it in a second.

Really? So after Russia tore down the wall, and took a step toward's democracy, the Bush's decieded to start funding Bin Laden, to start terrorising Russia, starting in the mid 90's? When Clinton was in office. Do you have any fact's to back this up?

Im with SFTT. I like to see all point's of view to make an educated decision, but having to put money into the pocket of a man who hates america, ain't gonna happen!

offiss · 07-05-2004, 06:17 PM

:thumb:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sammy Baugh Fan

ALERT!!!!
Michael Moore's NUMBER 1 Supporter was on TV this morning!

http://www.nagshead.net/michaelmooresupporter.jpg

Bwhahaha!

Trudat boo!

offiss · 07-05-2004, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I find it kinda funny how quickly we turned our attention away from Bin Laden and instead went after Saddam, despite the fact we have never found any weapons of mass destruction.

The truth is we'll never find Bin Laden, why? Because we're not trying to.

So where are these weapons that Saddam had anyway? Weren't they a huge reason we went in there in the first place? So now that we can't find them (because they didn't have any to start with) we instead hear the administration write it off with excuses, 'well, the world is a safer place now that Saddam is out'. Is it really though?? Anti-american sentiment is more heated than ever. The middle east is still a war zone, americans are still being killed, beheaded, etc. 911 was this administrations' perfect excuse to invade Iraq so baby bush could seek revenge for his daddy. He wanted to go in there before 911, so this was a convenient reason to justify it.

Bush is dragging the U.S. down the crapper. I really don't understand people that can stand by and support this buffoon.

Did anyone catch it when Bush totally butchered trying to pronounce 'Abu Ghraib'??

Just embarrassing, man. Totally embarrassing that this is the leader of the free world.

We are not safer with Sadam out of power? How do you no? What did we do to Bin Laden to force him to take down the WTC's? The fact is we have found chemical weapon's, although not in mass quantity, you don't think he shipped out his mobile weopon's development program's into neighboring countries? If he had nothing, why did he deny the inspector's access during the Clinton regime? If he had nothing to hide he could have maintained power over his country, so he gave it all up over nothing? He refused access because there was nothing there? The fact is we will alway's have enemies, we just eliminated one very dangerous one.

If you believe that Sadam having been left to himself, wouldn't develope some kind of WOMD to detonate on american soil, if givin the opportunity, your only fooling yourself.

The fact is, we were attacked 2 times under Clinton, once on our soil, and he didn't do a thing, and no sooner does he leave office we get hit with 9/11, it seem's doing nothing is more harmful to America, then meeting the enemy head on. At last check we haven't been attacked since 9/11, but Bush isn't getting the job done? I say no new's is good new's!

I sure hope Gibb's doesn't adhere to that kind of thinking during away games, we would't want to make the home crowd angry by beating them, would we?

That Guy · 07-06-2004, 04:22 AM

btw, in case you don't know, there were no useable water trucks in Iraq after the invasion. Might not mean much to you, but saddam had russian generals as consultants, and they know that you can ship anything in a water truck, flush it out with jet fuel, and it'll pass american chemical sensors... and guess why the water trucks couldn't be used?

...they were contaminated with jet fuel.

cpayne5 · 07-06-2004, 01:04 PM

http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fift...enheit-911.htm

Lengthy, but well documented, article on Michael Moore's slight of hand.

MTK · 07-06-2004, 01:21 PM

Whatever the facts, Moore's '9/11' should worry GOP

http://www.freep.com/news/politics/polcol6_20040706.htm

SmootSmack · 07-06-2004, 01:26 PM

Cpayne, that was a great article. Thanks!

MTK · 07-06-2004, 02:35 PM

I was reading the article that cpayne posted until I came across this part:

"Fahrenheit 9/11 begins on election night 2000. We are first shown the Al Gore rocking on stage with famous musicians and a high-spirited crowd. The conspicuous sign on stage reads “Florida Victory.” Moore creates the impression that Gore was celebrating his victory in Florida."

Ummm, hello, that was meant to be a fictitious scene. I thought that was pretty clear.

SmootSmack · 07-06-2004, 02:39 PM

Well I think that's the problem. This is supposedly a documentary, which means a factual film. Documentaries aren't supposed to include fictitious scenes and satirical voice-overs.

MTK · 07-06-2004, 03:22 PM

I guess if one doesn't understand Moore's humor then I guess an opening scene like that could be 'confusing'.

Moore isn't trying to deceive anyone with that opening scene, most people laughed at the sight of Gore celebrating his "Florida victory". Moore has always mixed humor and satire in with his work. Are humor and satire not allowed in documentaries either? So let's call it a film or movie then, who cares what it's classifed as.

cpayne5 · 07-06-2004, 04:26 PM

Ok, so you don't like the first point. Read the others and tell us what you think of those.

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07-06-2004, 01:04 PM	#69
cpayne5 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,807	http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fift...enheit-911.htm Lengthy, but well documented, article on Michael Moore's slight of hand. __________________ "It's not about what you've done, but what's been done for you."

07-06-2004, 01:26 PM	#71
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07-06-2004, 02:39 PM	#73
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Well I think that's the problem. This is supposedly a documentary, which means a factual film. Documentaries aren't supposed to include fictitious scenes and satirical voice-overs. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

07-06-2004, 04:26 PM	#75
cpayne5 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,807	Ok, so you don't like the first point. Read the others and tell us what you think of those. __________________ "It's not about what you've done, but what's been done for you."

07-01-2004, 03:55 PM	#63
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 44 Posts: 3,813	hey all, I was told about a book they were talking about on cnn yesterday thats being released by the same publisher who released the encyclopedia sized bill clinton memoires. The new book being released is abouting killing President Bush and even how to do it. I think this is probably one of the most disgusting things I've ever heard about. I don't care if it's "political satire" as they r trying to say it is, because u know there r people in the extreme who will take what the book says to heart and might possibly try to do as the book says. I mean what the hell is wrong with our country when we are publishing books about why and how to kill individual people. This is just as bad as that assasin handbook that was in the news a few years ago except with one extremely high level target.

07-02-2004, 04:58 PM	#64
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	theres lots of idiots doing stupid shit, i'd be kinda surprised if a major publisher would print it, but i've heard of stranger things...

07-06-2004, 04:22 AM	#68
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	btw, in case you don't know, there were no useable water trucks in Iraq after the invasion. Might not mean much to you, but saddam had russian generals as consultants, and they know that you can ship anything in a water truck, flush it out with jet fuel, and it'll pass american chemical sensors... and guess why the water trucks couldn't be used? ...they were contaminated with jet fuel.

07-06-2004, 01:21 PM	#70
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,569	Whatever the facts, Moore's '9/11' should worry GOP http://www.freep.com/news/politics/polcol6_20040706.htm

07-06-2004, 02:35 PM	#72
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,569	I was reading the article that cpayne posted until I came across this part: "Fahrenheit 9/11 begins on election night 2000. We are first shown the Al Gore rocking on stage with famous musicians and a high-spirited crowd. The conspicuous sign on stage reads “Florida Victory.” Moore creates the impression that Gore was celebrating his victory in Florida." Ummm, hello, that was meant to be a fictitious scene. I thought that was pretty clear.

07-06-2004, 03:22 PM	#74
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,569	I guess if one doesn't understand Moore's humor then I guess an opening scene like that could be 'confusing'. Moore isn't trying to deceive anyone with that opening scene, most people laughed at the sight of Gore celebrating his "Florida victory". Moore has always mixed humor and satire in with his work. Are humor and satire not allowed in documentaries either? So let's call it a film or movie then, who cares what it's classifed as.

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