Giants Cut Arrington, Emmons, Petigout, and Morton

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

That is what I said. Sign him to a contract that is loaded with incentives only if he passes a physical. I have heard that he is way ahead of schedule if that means anything.

Lavar tends to wander a bit. But all I know was his last year here, when he was on the field, he was making a difference. He was getting the ball carrier on the ground all by himself. So if he can do that then he's better than Marshall and Holdman. However I'm not sure how that would impact Rocky since they play the same position. So it's probably not going to happen.

Why put incentives in there? He will be lucky to make a roster next year. Anyone who gives him a shot is doing him a favor.

He shouldn't have burnt this bridge before he left. He never looked right in Blue.

I am more interested in Petigout.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

Why put incentives in there? He will be lucky to make a roster next year. Anyone who gives him a shot is doing him a favor.

He shouldn't have burnt this bridge before he left. He never looked right in Blue.

I am more interested in Petigout.

Well he did burn his bridges. That is true.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

I am more interested in Petigout.

Petigout is a good starting LT and will not accept a backup role or backup pay. Thus, he is not in the Redskins plans.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

Because Trotter didn't have two knee surgeries and an achillies injury.

Not to rain on the parade but I have heard a hundred times that Taylor and the other guys on the defense are undisciplined. So what exactly would Lavar (even less disciplined than the group that we have now) be bringing to the table?

If he would accept a minimum deal, I would let him try out. That is it.

dont you remember how well the defense played when he was finally inserted into the starting line up during our 6 game winning streak. He averaged double digit tackles in both playoff games, had a pick that set up our first score and knocked out Alexander in the other(helped knock him out)

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

dont you remember how well the defense played when he was finally inserted into the starting line up during our 6 game winning streak. He averaged double digit tackles in both playoff games, had a pick that set up our first score and knocked out Alexander in the other(helped knock him out)

Yeah that's great and all, but I don't care about what he's done, I care about what he can do from here on out. Chances are he can't do much in 2007 because of the achilles. And with his recent penchant for injury, and chronic knee troubles, I don't like his chances of being available when his team really needs him. He can't be relied upon very well anymore.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

If I remember correctly didn't Trotter leave Philly on bad terms and go back to have a productive career? So why can't Lavar and Mgt throw all the BS under the rug and offer him an incentive contract? It's not like we are loaded at LB. We have one proven LB on the roster. And the FA market isn't looking so good either. 50 year old, undersized London Fletcher is not the way to go. BRING BACK LAVAR.

I recall reading that Reid kept in touch w/Trotter & offered condolences when he blew his knee out here. I don't know if Gibbs called Lavar when he ruptured his achilles, but some of Lavar's words about Joe were pretty harsh. In addition, the Danny hates the postons if not Lavar too.
That was probably the most tragic aspect of Lavar's career in Wasington, not the injuries & undisciplined play, but his standing by his agents while the nflpa & congress questioned their ethics.
I said it in several of the many Lavar posts, I really believe the rift w/Lavar & the Danny all stems from the postons.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

I recall reading that Reid kept in touch w/Trotter & offered condolences when he blew his knee out here. I don't know if Gibbs called Lavar when he ruptured his achilles, but some of Lavar's words about Joe were pretty harsh. In addition, the Danny hates the postons if not Lavar too.
That was probably the most tragic aspect of Lavar's career in Wasington, not the injuries & undisciplined play, but his standing by his agents while the nflpa & congress questioned their ethics.
I said it in several of the many Lavar posts, I really believe the rift w/Lavar & the Danny all stems from the postons.

first off, all players are going to stand by their agents, especially ones you have had your whole career. He acknoledged the over sight by his agent, he said he wasnt worried about the contract, he said he was all ready a rich man, that playing in DC was the most important thing, more than the 6 million. Danny and LaVar were very close, until this whole contract thing, which the NFLPA forced the arbitration thing. Lavar wanted it dropped. they wouldn't let it drop.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

first off, all players are going to stand by their agents, especially ones you have had your whole career. He acknoledged the over sight by his agent, he said he wasnt worried about the contract, he said he was all ready a rich man, that playing in DC was the most important thing, more than the 6 million. Danny and LaVar were very close, until this whole contract thing, which the NFLPA forced the arbitration thing. Lavar wanted it dropped. they wouldn't let it drop.

Players fire agents regularly. It doesn't happen often, but it happens w/several players every year.
Standing by your agent against Snyder is one thing, if you really believe them. But going up against the nflpa when they have basically presented all the evidence & said guility is another. Lavar seemed to have something for putting up an ideological stand, like when he refused to let the nfl sell his jersey, even though he stood to make $ from it.
I'm all for standing up for what you believe, but in business you have to be smart about picking your battles. Lavar hasn't been unfortunately.
Of course the nflpa got involved, they don't want agents signing contracts & then turning around and saying "wait, you left out $6mil! I know I signed the contract, but we want the $6mil anyway!"
I always loved Lavar & would like to think he was in the right in the dispute, but in all I don't think he handled it any better than the Skins, who he accused of slighting him. It's a pretty big deal to say publicly that your employer cheated you & side w/your agent that actually signed the deal. My advice to anyone w/a job is to not do that!

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

first off, all players are going to stand by their agents, especially ones you have had your whole career. He acknoledged the over sight by his agent, he said he wasnt worried about the contract, he said he was all ready a rich man, that playing in DC was the most important thing, more than the 6 million. Danny and LaVar were very close, until this whole contract thing, which the NFLPA forced the arbitration thing. Lavar wanted it dropped. they wouldn't let it drop.

I don't think that the NFLPA forced it to go into arbitration. I think that Lavar,his agent and the Redskins decided to let it go into arbitration to get the matter settled. The NFLPa represents the players and if Lavar said to drop the issue it would not make much sense for the NFLPA to presue an issue that the player was not willing to fight.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I don't think that the NFLPA forced it to go into arbitration. I think that Lavar,his agent and the Redskins decided to let it go into arbitration to get the matter settled. The NFLPa represents the players and if Lavar said to drop the issue it would not make much sense for the NFLPA to presue an issue that the player was not willing to fight.

I dont know if I can find the article but LaVar did want it dropped. the players association wanted it to go to arbitration because of what happened with the contract. Arrington worked something out with the team, the players association wanted to nail the agent, which they did.

[diehardskin2982]

I do wonder if the redskins would take him back... especially all the troubles we had this year with the Defense in his departure. Although he didn't play much, he was a leader

[skinsfan_nn]

Poor Lavar, how does minimium wage sound Lavar ??? Good Luck...DON'T COME BACK... USED UP HAS BEEN OR NEVER WAS IS MORE LIKE IT! Surprised at the Petitgout move he's been a solid OT. Another suprise if they depart with Chad I thought he played well in NY.

[SkinEmAll]

Cant the mods put people here who want to bring lavar back in a 'time-out'? pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease!

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by SkinEmAll

Cant the mods put people here who want to bring lavar back in a 'time-out'? pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease!

I guess that would mean that I would have to put myself in timeout. I understand the anti-LaVar sentiments and don't care for the "Bring Back Ramsey" crowd, but I wouldn't be opposed to bringing him back for the right price (aka cheap) and provided doctors clear him. He's undisciplined, melodramatic, narcissistic, and overrated, but he can also be a playmaker and a decent teammate.

I think a lot of people used to agree with me on this one. Before Arrington was cut, people loved the guy even though they recognized that he had some serious flaws. After Arrington was cut, people acted like the guy was worse than Warrick Holdman. Granted, he's had a serious injury, but one that he should be able to recover from.

So, to repeat, in my mind it all depends on his price and whether he can recover from his injury.

[SkinEmAll]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I guess that would mean that I would have to put myself in timeout. I understand the anti-LaVar sentiments and don't care for the "Bring Back Ramsey" crowd, but I wouldn't be opposed to bringing him back for the right price (aka cheap) and provided doctors clear him. He's undisciplined, melodramatic, narcissistic, and overrated, but he can also be a playmaker and a decent teammate.

I think a lot of people used to agree with me on this one. Before Arrington was cut, people loved the guy even though they recognized that he had some serious flaws. After Arrington was cut, people acted like the guy was worse than Warrick Holdman. Granted, he's had a serious injury, but one that he should be able to recover from.

So, to repeat, in my mind it all depends on his price and whether he can recover from his injury.

I hear ya bro and agree with alot of what you are saying. Theres a small part of me (small) that would love to see LA back in a Skins uniform. And I was as pissed as anyone about how everything went down, on both sides. But everyone loved him, with all his defects, when he was here cause he was 'family'. But when he left he should have kept his mouth shut on some things, like coach Gibbs. Bitch about snyder, lindsey, we all get that, but for me he took it too far. He didnt burn his bridges, he used weapons of mass destuction and blew them biatches up!! Pass a phyiscal, vet minimum and a gag order..........maybe.