Hooskins Presents the "Who Needs to Step Up" Poll

[saden1]

If Rogers doesn't step-up this upcoming season he is a bust, for sure. He'll forever be a #2 CB, if that.

[dmek25]

hey warpath, cool pics. those guys both look like kids( makes me feel old)

[freddyg12]

I voted other, cause I think Brandon Loyd needs to step up big time.

I agree that Rogers really had a bad year & seemed to have a cavalier attitude about it, but Loyd just looked like a prima donna a few too many times. I remember brunell getting pissed at him a couple of times, then there was the drop of JC's first nfl pass against tampa (which was perfect) and him not going back for the ball against st. louis (I think).
If we got avg. production from him it could vastly improve our passing game. I don't want to hear that we didn't go to him enough, he shows little toughness or willingness to make the routine, tough plays.

[MTK]

Gtripp, so what seperates the average coaches from the great ones to you? Seems that you're ruling out things like motivation, leadership, trust, and respect. So does it just boil down to pure x's and o's and playcalling??

Have you ever had a really bad manager at work? Have you ever had a really great manager? What seperates the two?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Gtripp, so what seperates the average coaches from the great ones to you? Seems that you're ruling out things like motivation, leadership, trust, and respect. So does it just boil down to pure x's and o's and playcalling??

Have you ever had a really bad manager at work? Have you ever had a really great manager? What seperates the two?

The greatest coaches manage their personel better than any other coach. Not only will they nearly always have the best 11 players on the field for the situation, but they do it in a way that keeps all 46 active players involved and happy. This is nearly impossible to do, but it's so very crucial to sustained success.

While motivation, leadership, trust and respect are all vital things to the morale of any team, the head coach is hardly any more responsible for these things than the last guy on the team with no name and an irrelivant number. Just because the media douses the HC with all credit and blame does not mean hes deserving of any of it. If he's been saddled with a team full of crappy attitudes, his reputation is going to be one of little discipline. Nothing he can do about it.

I would say the difference between the great manager and the bad one from my perspective would be held in his personal relationship with me. But just like a head football coach, what defines him to me (as a player) would be irrelivant to somone else (such as a fan).

[Chief X_Phackter]

Well considering Landry, Mcintosh and Wade didn't play last year (McIntosh had a few snaps), I have to go with Rogers to step it up. I can't say that Landry, McIntosh, or Wade have to step it up because I haven't seen what they can do in this system. Golston wasn't the problem with the D line last year, it was systemic across the board. Rogers, must step it up and I think with the help he has now he will. If not, there are plenty of other options at Corner this year. Maybe that's what he needed is some competition for his spot.

[Longtimefan]

I voted other, and have to agree with freddyg12 on Brandon Lloyd. With Moss repeatedly having to deal with nagging injuries, Lloyd must bring a game in order to continue justifying his being. He was clearly the most dissapointing player on the offensive side of the ball last year.........Needs to step up his game "Big Time"

[irish]

I voted Other. I think Jason Campbell needs to step up and try to do something similar to what Vince Young did last year. The QB makes the offense go and if JC steps it up the offense will go.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by irish

I voted Other. I think Jason Campbell needs to step up and try to do something similar to what Vince Young did last year. The QB makes the offense go and if JC steps it up the offense will go.

True...but Jason Campbell was the one ineligible in this poll. Because we all know he's vital to this team's success. If he was an option it would have been a landslide

[irish]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

True...but Jason Campbell was the one ineligible in this poll. Because we all know he's vital to this team's success. If he was an option it would have been a landslide

I know but he's my vote.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by irish

I know but he's my vote.

Aside from him, who would you say? Imagine you were to follow the rules of the poll, who would you vote for?

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by irish

I voted Other. I think Jason Campbell needs to step up and try to do something similar to what Vince Young did last year. The QB makes the offense go and if JC steps it up the offense will go.

Honestly, the only thing I want him to do Vince Young-related is to win. I would honestly be pretty pissed if he put up the stats that Young did.

[MTK]

I think you're giving too much credit to the player being able to properly motivate and prepare themselves. Not every average Joe in the NFL prepares himself and approaches the game like a Peyton Manning. If the league was full of Peyton Manning types there would be almost no need for coaches.

The NFL is almost like the military and the players are the soldiers. Soliders are trained to follow orders and to look to their leaders for guidance and direction. A bad leader can sour the whole bunch and be a detriment to the entire team. While a good leader can inspire and lead, and bring the best out of everyone.

I believe attitude starts at the top of an organization and works it's way down. I believe a quality leader can indeed change the attitude of an entire organization. Of course there are always going to be a few bad apples not worth saving, but quality leadership is something that can't be measured and is invaluable.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think you're giving too much credit to the player being able to properly motivate and prepare themselves. Not every average Joe in the NFL prepares himself and approaches the game like a Peyton Manning. If the league was full of Peyton Manning types there would be almost no need for coaches.

The NFL is almost like the military and the players are the soldiers. Soliders are trained to follow orders and to look to their leaders for guidance and direction. A bad leader can sour the whole bunch and be a detriment to the entire team. While a good leader can inspire and lead, and bring the best out of everyone.

I believe attitude starts at the top of an organization and works it's way down. I believe a quality leader can indeed change the attitude of an entire organization. Of course there are always going to be a few bad apples not worth saving, but quality leadership is something that can't be measured and is invaluable.

Well, I think its safe to say that every player in the NFL has had multiple coaches along his journey to the NFL. So if a player can't self-motivate himself (which I see as a fairly effortless process, so long as you love to play the game) I don't see anyway he would continually have success at every level on his way to the NFL.

And its true that at some point, every player in the league was not at his current state of mental acuity and maturity. So at some point along the way, some coach WAS responsible for the development of the talent. But this probably happened far before the NFL level. For some guys, it happened in pee wee, for most in HS, and some really late bloomers dont mature from a football standpoint until college (these tend to be the small school players, since anyone who had NFL talent and maturity prior to college got a DI scolarship).

While I'm sure there have been instances of untapped potential reaching the NFL level, I just think the occurences of this are so low that it doesnt make a difference. These players probably werent drafted, and thusly, might not ever get their shot with a good coach to tap their potential.

It's just so rare in the NFL for a player to come along with any expectation whatsoever who isn't always mentally prepared for every play.

[BDBohnzie]

The damn Mods around here need to step up...wait, that's a post for another time

I said other. People have pointed out that Carlos and Rocky need to step up, and I wholeheartedly agree. However, for the offense to be successful, there needs to be the emergence of a solid #2 receiver. While Moss and Cooley are capable of leading the receivers, both Lloyd and Randle El need to step up and provide capable targets for Campbell to throw to. The ability to adjust routes and come back to the ball will be crucial in Campbell's development this year. The ability to get the ball down field will open up running lanes for Portis and Betts, and will give Campbell more time in the pocket.