Does prayer work?

RobH4413 · 09-10-2007, 10:21 AM

Just pm'd you too jsarno... You better start cleaning out your box

saden1 · 09-10-2007, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jsarno

Actually yes, and there are many connections from the bible to "the secret".

Coincidentally, I have lost faith in "the secret" too. I stayed amazingly positive and it seemed worse and worse things kept happening to me. Felt a little like Job. (pronounced jobe, not job)

You're going through tought times and you've got to stay strong because if you don't for you and your wife who will? You have to stay positive and tackle your problems as problems. You need to have a game plan for solving them. No game plan, no execution, no solution.

As for The Secret, it is complete and utter trash. If everyone in the world visualized their desires and they were fulfilled the world would be a utopia. The whole notion is absurd. It kinda reminds me of people who buy lottery tickets on the regular. Their chance of winning is next nil yet they have hope and continue to spend and lose their hard earned dollars.

Finally, I don't think you aught question/doubt your faith simply because you are going through tough times. Your judgment tends to be clouded under such circumstance and I would encourage you to see your pastor.

Sammy Baugh Fan · 09-10-2007, 09:35 AM

I logged in this morning and PM'd you back.
Noone can show you proof of prayers working. I gave you some examples of His hands in my life and my Faith and Hope and the Peace I have.

Keep the Faith baby brother. Maybe after you pray just take some time and be quite. Try not to think and work it out just be still and quiet for a while and Know He is God.

I'm a Prayer Warrior and will lift you and your wife up in Prayer that He reveals Himself to you and draws you nearer to Himself.

peace
mike

You have my cell number in PM and feel free to call anytime.

jsarno · 09-11-2007, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Sammy Baugh Fan

I logged in this morning and PM'd you back.
Noone can show you proof of prayers working. I gave you some examples of His hands in my life and my Faith and Hope and the Peace I have.

Keep the Faith baby brother. Maybe after you pray just take some time and be quite. Try not to think and work it out just be still and quiet for a while and Know He is God.

I'm a Prayer Warrior and will lift you and your wife up in Prayer that He reveals Himself to you and draws you nearer to Himself.

peace
mike

You have my cell number in PM and feel free to call anytime.

I appreciate you kind words and willingness to help.

For me, it's very hard to keep my mind quiet. I have a never ending working mind. I am a problem solver and I am the one everyone goes to for answers. Just having trouble solving my own problems right now.
I am only sleeping 4 hours a night (if I'm lucky) cause my mind won't shut off.
I just need to find the light at the end of the tunnel, and I'm hoping God will show me the light.

dall-assblows · 09-10-2007, 08:43 PM

who is anyone to say if they do or not?

really no one knows for sure so will everyone shut the hell up!

MTK · 09-10-2007, 08:58 PM

There is no god and therefore praying is useless. In the end you can only rely on one person... yourself.

Life sucks and throws you curve balls, it's your job to knock it out of the park.

Just my overly simple view on the matter.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 09-10-2007, 09:29 PM

I'm agnostic, but I saw the Bills-Broncos game and prayed at least twice (albeit rather informally) for TE Everett to recover from the spinal injury.

SmootSmack · 09-10-2007, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I'm agnostic, but I saw the Bills-Broncos game and prayed at least twice (albeit rather informally) for TE Everett to recover from the spinal injury.

And the cynic would say...what did it accomplish?

htownskinfan · 09-12-2007, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

And the cynic would say...what did it accomplish?

I prayed too,did it work? I dont know,but it looks like now he might walk again,is it a miracle? we'll never no till were dead and dead men tell no tales

Sammy Baugh Fan · 09-10-2007, 09:48 PM

God is Real and this may be a Trial. Drive on, keep the Faith and know many others like you believe but struggle at times too.
peace
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Sammy Baugh Fan · 09-11-2007, 07:24 AM

Hang in there man but remember the light at the end of the tunnel could be an oncoming train. lol
Sorry to throw a bummer at ya man.

Yer gonna be fine and I can't wait to hear ow God blesses you.

Hang in there Snoop!
peace

jsarno · 09-11-2007, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sammy Baugh Fan

Hang in there man but remember the light at the end of the tunnel could be an oncoming train. lol
Sorry to throw a bummer at ya man.

Yer gonna be fine and I can't wait to hear ow God blesses you.

Hang in there Snoop!
peace

Thanks for all your help...you've really helped me keep some faith.
I do need some advice on how to let go though. I try but I don't seem to be able to let go. I'll tell myself to let go and relax and let God take over, and I feel relaxed for 5 minutes or so, then all the stress comes charging back into my mind.

Bushead · 09-11-2007, 09:51 AM

OH sweet jesus, i think about all this stuff all the time. Not making it any better is me being in an Ethics class and a Religious studies class.

jsarno · 09-11-2007, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bushead

OH sweet jesus, i think about all this stuff all the time. Not making it any better is me being in an Ethics class and a Religious studies class.

You might want to think about changing your avatar! LOL.

12thMan · 09-11-2007, 10:08 AM

I think prayer is as mysterious as the existence of God himself, angels, demons, heaven or hell. So it's quite difficult to quantify results from a spiritual perspective as we're dealing with a world we can't see, looking for results in a world we can see. With that in mind I don't think prayer is as simple as a hit or miss proposition.

When I think of prayer, or when I pray, it involves a dialogue with God. So prayer to me is based on my relationship with God. I think in the context of a relationship with God, an answered prayer may be connected to another set of realities unbeknownst to me at the time of my petition. In other words, the results I want may not always be in my best interest; "Thy will be done."

While meditation is a matter of keeping the body, mind, and spirit quiet and bringing them all in unisome...or at least to the extent where some form of clarity can be attained, prayer on the other hand, by neccessity, involves a greater force or being outside of yourself. Someone that has the power to act and intervene in such a way that you or I never could.

That's my take on it.

09-10-2007, 10:21 AM	#1
RobH4413 Wildcard Bitches Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bethesda, MD Age: 40 Posts: 2,638	Re: Does prayer work? Just pm'd you too jsarno... You better start cleaning out your box __________________ This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps!

09-10-2007, 09:35 AM	#3
Sammy Baugh Fan Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Northern Virginia, Woodbridge Age: 64 Posts: 2,507	Re: Does prayer work? I logged in this morning and PM'd you back. Noone can show you proof of prayers working. I gave you some examples of His hands in my life and my Faith and Hope and the Peace I have. Keep the Faith baby brother. Maybe after you pray just take some time and be quite. Try not to think and work it out just be still and quiet for a while and Know He is God. I'm a Prayer Warrior and will lift you and your wife up in Prayer that He reveals Himself to you and draws you nearer to Himself. peace mike You have my cell number in PM and feel free to call anytime. __________________ Check out Mike Hedrick - The Next Food Network Star. Please Click and give me a Thumbs Up and Positive Comment. Thanks

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dall-assblows The Starter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: round the way Age: 43 Posts: 2,211	Re: Does prayer work? who is anyone to say if they do or not? really no one knows for sure so will everyone shut the hell up! __________________ SOMEBODY PINCH ME

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MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,038	Re: Does prayer work? There is no god and therefore praying is useless. In the end you can only rely on one person... yourself. Life sucks and throws you curve balls, it's your job to knock it out of the park. Just my overly simple view on the matter. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 47 Posts: 8,317	Re: Does prayer work? I'm agnostic, but I saw the Bills-Broncos game and prayed at least twice (albeit rather informally) for TE Everett to recover from the spinal injury.

09-10-2007, 09:48 PM	#10
Sammy Baugh Fan Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Northern Virginia, Woodbridge Age: 64 Posts: 2,507	Re: Does prayer work? God is Real and this may be a Trial. Drive on, keep the Faith and know many others like you believe but struggle at times too. peace <>< __________________ Check out Mike Hedrick - The Next Food Network Star. Please Click and give me a Thumbs Up and Positive Comment. Thanks

09-11-2007, 07:24 AM	#11
Sammy Baugh Fan Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Northern Virginia, Woodbridge Age: 64 Posts: 2,507	Re: Does prayer work? Hang in there man but remember the light at the end of the tunnel could be an oncoming train. lol Sorry to throw a bummer at ya man. Yer gonna be fine and I can't wait to hear ow God blesses you. Hang in there Snoop! peace __________________ Check out Mike Hedrick - The Next Food Network Star. Please Click and give me a Thumbs Up and Positive Comment. Thanks

09-11-2007, 09:51 AM	#13
Bushead Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 782	Re: Does prayer work? OH sweet jesus, i think about all this stuff all the time. Not making it any better is me being in an Ethics class and a Religious studies class.

09-11-2007, 10:08 AM	#15
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Does prayer work? I think prayer is as mysterious as the existence of God himself, angels, demons, heaven or hell. So it's quite difficult to quantify results from a spiritual perspective as we're dealing with a world we can't see, looking for results in a world we can see. With that in mind I don't think prayer is as simple as a hit or miss proposition. When I think of prayer, or when I pray, it involves a dialogue with God. So prayer to me is based on my relationship with God. I think in the context of a relationship with God, an answered prayer may be connected to another set of realities unbeknownst to me at the time of my petition. In other words, the results I want may not always be in my best interest; "Thy will be done." While meditation is a matter of keeping the body, mind, and spirit quiet and bringing them all in unisome...or at least to the extent where some form of clarity can be attained, prayer on the other hand, by neccessity, involves a greater force or being outside of yourself. Someone that has the power to act and intervene in such a way that you or I never could. That's my take on it.

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