Our offense is Pathetic

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by irish

The coaching staff is killing this team. They mismanage the clock, take a timeout and then call a 2 yd pass play when they need 3 for the 1st down.

There is a lot of talent on this team but the coaches stink.

The coaches didn't make Campbell throw it to Betts. McCardell was wide open for a first down. Part of a young QB's growing pains.

Having said that, Saunders seemed a bit pass-happy today. And that reverse. We must be the worst reverse team in the history of organized football.

Also, the coaches didn't drop any passes. None that I saw anyways.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

The coaches didn't make Campbell throw it to Betts. McCardell was wide open for a first down. Part of a young QB's growing pains.

Having said that, Saunders seemed a bit pass-happy today. And that reverse. We must be the worst reverse team in the history of organized football.

Also, the coaches didn't drop any passes. None that I saw anyways.

Sad but true.

I'm pretty young, but I can even remember back in the 90's when the Skins would run the reverse (or the fake) and it actually WORK time and time again.

Too bad those days are long gone.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by irish

The coaching staff is killing this team. They mismanage the clock, take a timeout and then call a 2 yd pass play when they need 3 for the 1st down.

There is a lot of talent on this team but the coaches stink.

Seriously! If it wasn't for Gibbs fumbling that ball (which was recovered for a TD), Gibbs bumbling that reception that ended up getting picked, Williams failing to get more of those picks, or Saunders getting blown past for sacks, we totally would have won that game. Damn you coaches!!

[irish]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Seriously! If it wasn't for Gibbs fumbling that ball (which was recovered for a TD), Gibbs bumbling that reception that ended up getting picked, Williams failing to get more of those picks, or Saunders getting blown past for sacks, we totally would have won that game. Damn you coaches!!

You are correct, Gibbs didnt do any of those things. Maybe they need to coach the players better on technique. The bigger problem is Gibbs and the coaching staff dont seem to put the O in positions where they can succeed. Gibbs cant control if JC throws a short pass to Betts missing a 1st down by a yard but he can call a play for a young Qb where the 2 yard pass is not the first read (and blow a TO to call it).

[gibbsisgod]

Originally Posted by irish

You are correct, Gibbs didnt do any of those things. Maybe they need to coach the players better on technique. The bigger problem is Gibbs and the coaching staff dont seem to put the O in positions where they can succeed. Gibbs cant control if JC throws a short pass to Betts missing a 1st down by a yard but he can call a play for a young Qb where the 2 yard pass is not the first read (and blow a TO to call it).

I have a big problem with this. The coaching staff put the team in a very good position to win. They put Moss in position to catch the bomb down the sideline, they put Lloyd in postion to catch the bomb down the middle of the field for a TD. They put the players in a number of winnable situations and they PLAYERS lost the game.

I can really see why some people have a problem with you. You make no sense.

[Sean Taylor]

Originally Posted by irish

You are correct, Gibbs didnt do any of those things. Maybe they need to coach the players better on technique. The bigger problem is Gibbs and the coaching staff dont seem to put the O in positions where they can succeed. Gibbs cant control if JC throws a short pass to Betts missing a 1st down by a yard but he can call a play for a young Qb where the 2 yard pass is not the first read (and blow a TO to call it).

Dude, I have read some of your posts and you have no clue what you're talking about. Coaches have had 1% to do with both losses if that. Its all on the players and execution.......add in injuries if you want but that's just another excuse. Moss does not drop two passes and fumble we win by 14 yesterday. You want Gibbs out so bad and its obvious in your attitude after every loss. You don't seem have anything to say after a 34-3 home win though.

[Sean Taylor]

Originally Posted by irish

The coaching staff is killing this team. They mismanage the clock, take a timeout and then call a 2 yd pass play when they need 3 for the 1st down.

There is a lot of talent on this team but the coaches stink.

UR CLUELESS!

[Darrell_Green_28]

not sure if its posted anywheres else but with the trade deadline i think this tuesday, do we make a move for an o lineman or 2?

[Longtimefan]

We were not the deepest team in the league going into the season, and with all the injuries on the offensive side of the ball, it's unrealistic to think they can operate fluently under that set of circumstances. Couple that with the growing pains of a maturing young QB, any team is going to struggle at times.

Offensive woes aside, there were some good things. The defense palyed a very good game, "if" we could have back the Moss fumble for six, even with all the mistakes this could have been a different game. We need to find a way to score more points, "that's the bottom line". New England is 6-0 because they have scored more than thirty points in each of their games, had we been able to do the same, we'd be 5-0 as opposed to 3-2.

[SouperMeister]

My biggest issue with the offense was the ridiculous reverse call to Moss that led to the fumble and winning TD for GB. Why does Saunders feel a desire to trick teams? The Skins had significantly outplayed the Packers to that point, despite the close score. Portis had broken a couple 10+ yard runs in the 2nd half, and the Skins had GREAT field position after Rock's excellent kick return. Moss had footing problems with the wet turf all day, yet on that call, Saunders is effectively asking him to to make a hard cut to make the corner. Bad call at a bad time.

[JWsleep]

Basically, we lost the game on a couple of turnovers, IMO. Drops and fumbles were the real story here. That's execution, no two ways about it. And JC missed the game winner, most likely, when he overthrew Lloyd.

The good: the D is playing ball, and the problem is not that we just suck on offense, and look pathetic; it's the little things that we are able to fix--drops, timing in the passing game, and fumbles.

The bad: O-line injuries are catching up with us. The run game is not there. We don't seem to have the playmakers to step up and make a play when we really need it on O. We were again really one or two plays away from winning, and couldn't get it done. At some point, you have to make the next step.

The bottom line: we are an up and down team in a relatively weak NFC. We'll most likely be right in the wildcard hunt, but it will take better execution to make it to the playoffs. That's pretty much how I felt at the beginning of the year, so I'm not surprised. It hurts to watch, but look, we are not the Pats. We just aren't that good (yet, I hope!). We just need to find a way to win the ones we need to, and learn from our mistakes. And hopefully, Buges can patch up that O-line so Campbell can have a little more time! he was pressured and hit WAY too much for us to be successful at this stage in JC's career. And he was still hitting people in the hands (and chest and face), despite that. Hang in there, boys.

[dgack]

Originally Posted by JWsleep

JC missed the game winner, most likely, when he overthrew Lloyd.

I don't know, what Brandon Lloyd calls a "career" is built off of circus catches and he had full hands on that ball and just dropped it.

He could have pretty much written his own prescription for full redemption in the eyes of Redskin Nation had he just been able to make that one play, but as usual, he came up short. I give him credit for laying out on that pass, but I really think that's a catchable ball for a lot of NFL WR's.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by dgack

I don't know, what Brandon Lloyd calls a "career" is built off of circus catches and he had full hands on that ball and just dropped it.

He could have pretty much written his own prescription for full redemption in the eyes of Redskin Nation had he just been able to make that one play, but as usual, he came up short. I give him credit for laying out on that pass, but I really think that's a catchable ball for a lot of NFL WR's.

You make that sound like an easy catch. I blame Campbell for not putting a little air under that throw. He must learn to do that when he has receivers running in the clear (remember his missing a wide open Moss at Philly). Campbell mentioned after the game that Lloyd has been practicing very well recently, so perhaps we haven't heard the last of Lloyd just yet.

[dgack]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

You make that sound like an easy catch. I blame Campbell for not putting a little air under that throw. He must learn to do that when he has receivers running in the clear (remember his missing a wide open Moss at Philly). Campbell mentioned after the game that Lloyd has been practicing very well recently, so perhaps we haven't heard the last of Lloyd just yet.

I'm not saying it was easy, just that at the pro level, for the money our receivers are getting paid, those kinds of catches are expected, because guys at that level are paid to make plays far above the level of "easy".

If Mike Espy or even (bless his heart) Taylor Jacobs drops that ball, I can understand that. A starter should catch that more often than he drops it, and today the drops stats spoke for themselves.

Sure, Jason's touch on deep balls still needs some work, but I reject the idea that Jason put that ball in an uncatchable place. If we need receivers who can only catch "easy" throws, there are plenty of good high school receivers down here in Texas who can fill that requirement.

[NYCSkin]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

You make that sound like an easy catch. I blame Campbell for not putting a little air under that throw. He must learn to do that when he has receivers running in the clear (remember his missing a wide open Moss at Philly). Campbell mentioned after the game that Lloyd has been practicing very well recently, so perhaps we haven't heard the last of Lloyd just yet.

Completely agree. Campbell throws his long balls "on a line". These lead to either overthrows or difficult balls to catch. It would have taken a spectacular catch by Lloyd on that one...