Its time for joe to step down.

70Chip · 11-11-2007, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MTRedskinsFan

Injuries had little to do w/ the game today IMO. Losing ST was big but he's only one player and Praylow is a veteran. We lost because we couldn't get in the endzone when it mattered, because of horrific clock management, and because we're generally-speaking the sloppiest, most disorganized team in professional football. That's all coaching. IMO.

How was the clock management horrific today? Could you cite specific examples?

skinsguy · 11-11-2007, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

What explains last season then?

Injuries. Lost Portis for the season, Santana was hurt last year, transition from Brunell to Jason Campbell, and our defense collapsing last season. That is what explains last season.

Twilbert07 · 11-11-2007, 06:58 PM

Looks like we're basically a .500 team. We can beat (barely) teams like the Dolphins, Jets and Cardinals who can't beat anyone. We hang tough with tough teams but usually blow the games late (Giants, Packers, Eagles). Some of the late-game disasters fall on the shoulders of the coaches - especially Gregg Williams.

If we finish 8-8, it will be an improvement over last year but a regression from 2005. And, it will be time for some of the top coaches to let someone else give it a try.

chrisl4064 · 11-11-2007, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by hurrykaine

Just kidding, dude. You're fine. Very predictable theme here....another skins loss, another "Gibbs-must-go" thread. At that point, Gibbs lovers deflect attention from Gibbs' inadequacies and start to focus on spelling errors and question the character of Gibbs doubters.

Had a very interesting incident in one of the threads after the Pats debacle where the Gibbs must go thread morphed into an attack on a forum member's character and marital fidelity.

i actually knew you were kidding but said to myself "what a dick!" haha

took me a minute to figure out how to respond to that knowing i dont use caps and ignore periods and commas.

jrocx69 · 11-11-2007, 06:58 PM

it is time to move in a different direction with the coach. keep GW and its time to offer a decent OC a head coach position

jsarno · 11-11-2007, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by twinskinsfan

And jsarno guy is right, injuries will kill a team. Be thankful for 5-4, instead of 0-9.

Exactly...let's look at this objectively. We lost Thomas / Jansen / Rogers and Moss for most games, and Taylor here lately...all of whom are pro bowl caliber players. We've lost more than that, but those are HUGE losses that are extremely difficult to overcome.
I don't like the way is conservative most of the time, but he's gotten better and he is in no way the problem here...he's done a good job with what he's had to work with.

MTRedskinsFan · 11-11-2007, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsguy

First off, who the heck is Praylow? Secondly, it's funny how you completely ignore all the mistakes the defense made.

Praylow is the guy with the funny last name, which I refuse to try to spell correctly because I don't want to look it up. Secondly, mistakes on defense are part of "generally speaking the sloppiest, most disorganized team in professional football." Penalty after penalty (on both sides of the ball) is sloppy and disorganized. Defense caving in when ONE FRIGGIN GUY goes out w/ an injury is sloppy and disorganized. IMO.

70Chip · 11-11-2007, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MTRedskinsFan

Praylow is the guy with the funny last name, which I refuse to try to spell correctly because I don't want to look it up. Secondly, mistakes on defense are part of "generally speaking the sloppiest, most disorganized team in professional football." Penalty after penalty (on both sides of the ball) is sloppy and disorganized. Defense caving in when ONE FRIGGIN GUY goes out w/ an injury is sloppy and disorganized. IMO.

He probably thinks your last name is funny...

MTRedskinsFan · 11-11-2007, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 70Chip

How was the clock management horrific today? Could you cite specific examples?

We blew two TO's in second half that would have come in quite handy w/ 2:31 left on a last ditch drive. Also called a TO earlier w/ 2:06 on the clock that seemed to only benefit Philly.

skinsguy · 11-11-2007, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MTRedskinsFan

Praylow is the guy with the funny last name, which I refuse to try to spell correctly because I don't want to look it up. Secondly, mistakes on defense are part of "generally speaking the sloppiest, most disorganized team in professional football." Penalty after penalty (on both sides of the ball) is sloppy and disorganized. Defense caving in when ONE FRIGGIN GUY goes out w/ an injury is sloppy and disorganized. IMO.

No, you're too lazy to look up Prioleau. Secondly, besides Betts putting the ball on the ground, the offense was quite organized today.

MTRedskinsFan · 11-11-2007, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 70Chip

He probably thinks your last name is funny...

He probably can't spell my last name either, even though it only has four letters.

Wait.. my last name on the site is Fan, that's only three letters.

skinsguy · 11-11-2007, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MTRedskinsFan

We blew two TO's in second half that would have come in quite handy w/ 2:31 left on a last ditch drive. Also called a TO earlier w/ 2:06 on the clock that seemed to only benefit Philly.

Calling time out to avoid running a bad play doesn't have anything to do with clock management.

chrisl4064 · 11-11-2007, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MTRedskinsFan

Praylow is the guy with the funny last name, which I refuse to try to spell correctly because I don't want to look it up. Secondly, mistakes on defense are part of "generally speaking the sloppiest, most disorganized team in professional football." Penalty after penalty (on both sides of the ball) is sloppy and disorganized. Defense caving in when ONE FRIGGIN GUY goes out w/ an injury is sloppy and disorganized. IMO.

Pierson Prioleau - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

take a second....

rypper11 · 11-11-2007, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 70Chip

How was the clock management horrific today? Could you cite specific examples?

I am actually still in Gibbs corner but....
TO instead of a delay of game penalty right before trying a 23 yd fg.
Several instances of not getting plays in quick enough.
Too many men on defense.
Not the worst game but it still hurt.

GusFrerotte · 11-11-2007, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsguy

Injuries. Lost Portis for the season, Santana was hurt last year, transition from Brunell to Jason Campbell, and our defense collapsing last season. That is what explains last season.

Portis wasn't a huge blow as Betts came on nicely. The QB situation had Gibbs all over it as he refused to put JC in to salvage the season. Defense collapsed as it was on the field for most of the game due to a horrid passing attack due to MB starting as a result of Gibbs obstinance.

11-11-2007, 06:58 PM	#63
Twilbert07 Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Age: 59 Posts: 594	Re: Its time for joe to step down. Looks like we're basically a .500 team. We can beat (barely) teams like the Dolphins, Jets and Cardinals who can't beat anyone. We hang tough with tough teams but usually blow the games late (Giants, Packers, Eagles). Some of the late-game disasters fall on the shoulders of the coaches - especially Gregg Williams. If we finish 8-8, it will be an improvement over last year but a regression from 2005. And, it will be time for some of the top coaches to let someone else give it a try. __________________ a Skins fan every day, every way.

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jrocx69 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Dallas Age: 43 Posts: 461	Re: Its time for joe to step down. it is time to move in a different direction with the coach. keep GW and its time to offer a decent OC a head coach position

Its time for joe to step down.

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