UPDATE: Four Arrested in Taylor's Death

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

I wish folks would not fall in to the trap of thinking that the death of Sean Taylor and the fate that awaits these horrible men are somehow a part of the same pathology. Sean died righteously and with honor, defending his baby, his girlfriend, and his home. These others are filthy predators who at the very least deserve to permanently seperated from orderly society so that there animalistic proclivities can no longer terrorize the community. If there are those who are wondering how the corner gets turned on violent crime, I say it begins there. Let us make plain that Sean's behavior in the final hour is to be admired and emulated. Let us make plain that these others have brought everlasting shame upon themselves and deserve the unanimous contempt of decent people everywhere, and let us never, ever get the two confused.

Well said. Perhaps Sean's lasting tribute will be a growing intolerance for perpetrators of gun violence. There needs to be more public outrage against criminals who have taken the streets of our cities. I just hope that Sean's death will not be in vain, and that it sparks some real collective soul searching that results in less gun violence.

That the killers have been found will make the league-wide tributes even more poignant given Taylor's heroic defense of his girlfriend and daughter.

[Tha Posse]

Miami-Dade Police: 4 men arrested in slaying of Washington Redskins star Sean Taylor - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

another article on yahoo

[Hijinx]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Eric Rivera: MySpace.com - $MR.FLORIDA$ - 17 - Male - LIL PAKISTAN BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!, Florida - www.myspace.com/ericriverajr4

Jason Mitchell: MySpace.com - $ FEAR GOD NOT THEM $ - 20 - Male - lehigh acres, Florida - www.myspace.com/105813923

(-Notice the picture and caption from the comment on Aug. 30, 2007)

Charles Wardlow: MySpace.com - CDub - FORT MYERS, Flevoland - Rap - www.myspace.com/cdubnext2blow

Wardlow's sister (I guess): MySpace.com - ¤TeeTee¤ [PLEASE FREE MY BR0 CHARLES WARDL0W] - 18 - Female - [2-3-9] FORT MYERS [2-3-9], Florida - www.myspace.com/tishaud_jamaal_gary_4eva

If you use these links you can see thier pics from their profiles:

http://lads.myspace.com/slides/photo...wf?u=105813923
http://lads.myspace.com/slides/photo...swf?u=54829123
http://lads.myspace.com/slides/photo...wf?u=251964564

They are real eye openers. You can see these fools have all the wrong values in life. Frankly after see these I see no reason for them ever to get out of prison.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by Lady Brave

Go back and read SGG's post on the Florida murder statutes. This will most likely be tried as a capital case unless there's a plea deal to a lesser included offense.

Rivera is a juvenile, but I believe his case could be bound over to Superior Court and he would be tried as an adult.

One thing I don't like about Florida law is that they only apply Second Degree Murder to everyone involved except the one who actually pulled the trigger. In NC, we have an element in our laws called "acting in concert", which means if you were involved in the offense, you are treated just as if you committed the murder yourself.

It's still too early to say what exactly these individuals will be indicted with. If this get to trial on a first degree murder charge, I doubt if a jury will recommend the death penalty. Mostly because of the defendant's age.

Thanks LB, for the insight. I thought that a capital crime included a combination of murder and rape or a double murder or a double rape. I also believed that a single murder could only be considered a capital crime if it was a cop, servicemember, or government official. Apparently, a murder in conjunction with an armed robery is a capital crime as well.

[JWsleep]

I don't have words to express how I feel about these worthless pieces of shit.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by angryssg

Thanks LB, for the insight. I thought that a capital crime included a combination of murder and rape or a double murder or a double rape. I also believed that a single murder could only be considered a capital crime if it was a cop, servicemember, or government official. Apparently, a murder in conjunction with an armed robery is a capital crime as well.

Each state has the right to define "capital murder," within the limits of the 8th Amendment. Florida does not mess around with criminals. Like many states, Florida has pretty strict murder statutes when it comes to murders committed during the course of the commission of a felony.

[SmootSmack]

It's so agonizing to think about. I mean if only he had been with the team on Sunday (even in street clothes on the sidelines), and it's not like the team was way out in Seattle or something like that. They were just a few hours away in Tampa.

But then I think if he wasn't there the suspects might have shot and killed his g/f or heaven forbid his daughter in a panic instead.

Just an awful situation all around.

[Vulta121]

Turn on the electric, get the bucket of water ready, and trap those fuckers in. It's time to fry some scum-bags. Listen guys this sounds harsh but you know what these guys should get tried like adults and put to death. Even if they didn't want to kill him they shouldn't be invading someone's home. I live in Miami and I keep a guns in my room I just wish they would have come to my house instead of Sean's.

[mike340]

So who´s their dentist? And what´s with the geisha ´do for the first one?

I don´t care that much about the sentence. I just want them locked up in a nice facility with lots of ´Canes/Redskins fans and lax supervision. It would allow some inmates to do what they enjoy the most and save taxpayer dollars at the same time.

Originally Posted by Hijinx

If you use these links you can see thier pics from their profiles:

http://lads.myspace.com/slides/photo...wf?u=105813923
http://lads.myspace.com/slides/photo...swf?u=54829123
http://lads.myspace.com/slides/photo...wf?u=251964564

They are real eye openers. You can see these fools have all the wrong values in life. Frankly after see these I see no reason for them ever to get out of prison.

[Ijaeger]

i feel sorry for these guys, to eventually die and then have sean waitin for you at the gates for an eternity of ass stomping. we should pity these poor souls...on second thought, what the hey...

[Tha Posse]

A needle is way to easy for them. I can't believe this happend so fast, I honestly thought this was never going to be solved. It really gives me some peace of mind though, knowing there not on the streets enjoying life.

[dgack]

I know this isn't going to be a popular position to take, but the fact that every one of these bastards is basically a teenager, *IS* a tragedy as well. So much was made of the mistakes that Taylor supposedly made in his life, and the fact that he had begun to figure things out, and then you look at these kids and it's pretty clear nobody has ever gotten through to them.

Those myspace pictures are really sad to me, personally. Thing is, my friends and I did a lot of stupid shit in my teenage years, some of which we foolishly took ridiculous pictures of ourselves doing. In my case it was vandalizing street signs, shoplifting from a place we all worked, driving out to vacant fields to get drunk, etc.. I'm not proud of those things, but we did them, and we got away with them.

Eventually we realized, "hey, I have a future to think about, college to think about, I could have gotten arrested, gotten killed in a car accident driving drunk, or hurt someone else" and we straightened the hell up.

Now, I'm not saying the things these kids have done deserve any kind of excuse, because there's a line you cross when you pull the trigger of a gun (and frankly, the moment you start carrying one). But, what I am saying is, it's not too hard of a stretch for me to imagine these kids being, at their core, just a bunch of really stupid teenagers with no respect for morals, values, or what's important in life. (The really heartbreaking thing for me watching those photos scroll by is the one picture of a child with the caption "my son" followed by a picture of this douchebag sitting on the curb with his boys looking baked out of his mind).

These kids weren't stone cold career criminals, but they are probably a perfect specimen showing how stone cold career criminals are formed.

[dgack]

I will also add that catching these scumbags is cold comfort to the Taylor family, the Redskins organization, and to Redskins fan nation. But, like others, I want to hear Wilbon, Shapiro, and Cowturd choke down some crow now that the truth most of us believed would come out, finally has.

We should write a letter to the editor of the Post.

[Bill B]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Check out these videos

http://video.ap.org/v/Legacy.aspx?g=...g=copy&f=flmih

In the column under Local News, click on the first and third thumbnails about one of the suspect's family responding to the arrest (the second thumbnail is Sean Taylor's dad)

But this is what really got to me, listen at the 1:45 mark of the "Suspect's Family Speaks Out" video. You'll see the suspect's mom on her cell phone and she says "They say that Sasha paid them to come to the house and do that."

First of all, who's "they" and secondly is she saying Sean Taylor's sister (half-sister) paid these guys to rob Taylor's house?!

Thanks for the video Smootsmack. That Grandmother statement that says here grandson was not in Miami has to be thrown out the window - half the time she was speaking she kept saying I am old and when I close the door I don't know what happens with my children/grandchildren - but all the sudden when her Grandson is being charged in a murder case she suddenly remembers that her Grandson was home - please!

These individuals are pure criminals and lets not get foggy glasses now. They planned when Taylor was supposed to be gone to get their loot, and when Taylor was there they used no hesitation to pull the trigger. They were armed and dangerous from the beginning. Yes these guys are young but they are old enough to know exactly what they were doing. They should all be tried as adults and justice needs to be served.

[HOGTIMUS PRIME]

Time to fry! I just hope justice is carried out swift, and extreme!