Collin's Good Backup nothing more

railcon56 · 01-06-2008, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ocliw

Well defend railcon56. He didn't do anything wrong and he's getting lots of grief.

Thank You

DynamiteRave · 01-06-2008, 05:21 PM

I feel like if you're going to put your opinion out there be prepared to have people out there NOT agree with some things you say. I mean if you're gonna whine about how people are attacking you and are not defending you then keep your opinion to yourself. People are not going to agree with everything you say. If I said, "Whohoho the world is flat" and then gave reasons why I thought it was, 99% of people wouldn't agree with me. But I put it out there and it doesn't mean it's necessarily wrong, but I'd be a fool to think everyone would just blatantly agree.

Ocliw · 01-06-2008, 05:30 PM

Plus you have no concept of how to use apostrophes.

Seems a bit much to me.

Lady Brave · 01-06-2008, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by railcon56

Ahh personal attacks now... What a great Mod...well I have contributed financially to this site ..before... I am not a writer..but I AM brave enough to state my opinion... LOl but you will just end up banning me ..or personally insulting me... btw...congrats on your perfect english skills..

What exactly does that mean? Contributing to the site renders your posts immune from being questioned? That your opinions deserve more respect? Not sure why you felt the need to mention that.

DynamiteRave · 01-06-2008, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ocliw

Plus you have no concept of how to use apostrophes.

Seems a bit much to me.

Maybe it was a bit insensitive. But come on, we're all adults here right? No point in getting worked up over something as trivial as apostrophes. Personally I don't care about whether or not someone can spell as long as their arguments aren't completely inane. But if it helps you sleep at night, SS shouldn't have made an attack on railcon's spelling. Lets all stick to the question at hand about TC.. or JC.. Wtf was the question again? :confused:

Ocliw · 01-06-2008, 05:48 PM

It just hit me wrong. Time to move on. Like you said Wtf was the question?

skinsguy · 01-06-2008, 06:02 PM

Honestly Railcon, if you had worded your OP a little bit differently you would probably have more of us agreeing with you. As it was worded, it sounded like a knee jerk reaction. The reason I say that is because it comes right after we lose a game in the playoffs. Like many of the "Gibbs must go" threads that were always started after almost every loss, it seemed like the same type of thread. Call it bad timing or just a poor way of conveying your feelings about Collins, it certainly isn't a thread that would be very popular amongst your Redskins brethren. Even still, when you say things like "many have turned on Campbell" then you just sound like sour grapes. The truth is, if you're going to accuse members here of turning on Campbell, then you'd better be ready to back that up. That isn't a statement of opinion. I can't say "Railcon killed my puppy, but that's just my opinion." That's an accusation and one I must back up with proof.

The truth is, the ones singing Campbell's praise (that includes me because I'm Campbell's bandwagon driver,) are still singing his praise. The only difference is we're smart enough to realize since Campbell was/is injured and Collins had the hot hand, it was a no brainer in keeping Collins in. This is IMHO, but I believe a good back up is a guy who can come in when the starter is injured or ineffective and win games for you. This is what Collins did for us. There is only a very few here who feel Collins should and will be starting next season. The large majority of us feel no matter the conclusion of this season, the starting QB job belongs to Jason Campbell.

Most of us will say Collins is quality back up. I probably disagree with the reason why he is a back up (weak arm, too slow in the pocket, etc...) atlas, he is a quality backup and I hope he's back on the team next season.

Finslady · 01-06-2008, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsguy

Honestly Railcon, if you had worded your OP a little bit differently you would probably have more of us agreeing with you. As it was worded, it sounded like a knee jerk reaction. The reason I say that is because it comes right after we lose a game in the playoffs. Like many of the "Gibbs must go" threads that were always started after almost every loss, it seemed like the same type of thread. Call it bad timing or just a poor way of conveying your feelings about Collins, it certainly isn't a thread that would be very popular amongst your Redskins brethren. Even still, when you say things like "many have turned on Campbell" then you just sound like sour grapes. The truth is, if you're going to accuse members here of turning on Campbell, then you'd better be ready to back that up. That isn't a statement of opinion. I can't say "Railcon killed my puppy, but that's just my opinion." That's an accusation and one I must back up with proof.

The truth is, the ones singing Campbell's praise (that includes me because I'm Campbell's bandwagon driver,) are still singing his praise. The only difference is we're smart enough to realize since Campbell was/is injured and Collins had the hot hand, it was a no brainer in keeping Collins in. This is IMHO, but I believe a good back up is a guy who can come in when the starter is injured or ineffective and win games for you. This is what Collins did for us. There is only a very few here who feel Collins should and will be starting next season. The large majority of us feel no matter the conclusion of this season, the starting QB job belongs to Jason Campbell.

Most of us will say Collins is quality back up. I probably disagree with the reason why he is a back up (weak arm, too slow in the pocket, etc...) atlas, he is a quality backup and I hope he's back on the team next season.

Well said.

DieHardSkin · 01-06-2008, 06:24 PM

Are you kidding me? This lose in no way was Todd Collins Fault. I think you make training camp a open competition for quarterback, and see who stands up to take the spot.

DynamiteRave · 01-06-2008, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DieHardSkin

Are you kidding me? This lose in no way was Todd Collins Fault. I think you make training camp a open competition for quarterback, and see who stands up to take the spot.

Then we'll end up with Brunell as QB again.

Ocliw · 01-06-2008, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Then we'll end up with Brunell as QB again.

Bite your tongue!

Finslady · 01-06-2008, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Then we'll end up with Brunell as QB again.

Oh dear.

DynamiteRave · 01-06-2008, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Finslady

Oh dear.

lol I never said I wanted it! I'm all about JC.

SmootSmack · 01-06-2008, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Ocliw

Plus you have no concept of how to use apostrophes.

Seems a bit much to me.

It was meant to be a joke, but I guess I should have put an accompanying emoticon to express it. However, http://www.redskinswarpath.com/announcement.php?f=2 (we do stress proper punctuation, or as close to it as possible)...so to point that out is hardly a personal attack. We all make grammatical errors, except Lady Brave, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to be grammatically correct.

I still haven't seen railcon explain

1. How irish's post is "the norm on this site"
2. How irish's post, if he indeed thinks is the norm, in any way "vilifies" Campbell
3. When Collins threw a temper tantrum. Why? Because he yelled at Sellers for fucking up a golden opportunity by not knowing where to line up and forcing a time-out.
4. Why there is NO WAY HE WILL BE BACK
5. What he meant by Collins "waited" to have turnovers. What does that even mean?

MTK · 01-06-2008, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by railcon56

But you didnt think this one was dumb?
http://www.redskinswarpath.com/locke...campbell+ready

No actually I thought it was a legit question to ask and it was brought up and discussed in an intelligent manner.

You're really oversensitive if you think that thread was "vilifying" JC.

01-06-2008, 05:21 PM	#62
DynamiteRave Living Legend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Washington DC Age: 39 Posts: 16,867	Re: Collin's Good Backup nothing more I feel like if you're going to put your opinion out there be prepared to have people out there NOT agree with some things you say. I mean if you're gonna whine about how people are attacking you and are not defending you then keep your opinion to yourself. People are not going to agree with everything you say. If I said, "Whohoho the world is flat" and then gave reasons why I thought it was, 99% of people wouldn't agree with me. But I put it out there and it doesn't mean it's necessarily wrong, but I'd be a fool to think everyone would just blatantly agree. __________________ Establishment, establishment, you always know what's best. I've been a part of this message board for 17 years. Damn I'm old.

01-06-2008, 05:30 PM	#63
Ocliw Special Teams Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NC Age: 58 Posts: 253	Re: Collin's Good Backup nothing more Plus you have no concept of how to use apostrophes. Seems a bit much to me.

01-06-2008, 05:48 PM	#66
Ocliw Special Teams Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NC Age: 58 Posts: 253	Re: Collin's Good Backup nothing more It just hit me wrong. Time to move on. Like you said Wtf was the question?

01-06-2008, 06:02 PM	#67
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	Re: Collin's Good Backup nothing more Honestly Railcon, if you had worded your OP a little bit differently you would probably have more of us agreeing with you. As it was worded, it sounded like a knee jerk reaction. The reason I say that is because it comes right after we lose a game in the playoffs. Like many of the "Gibbs must go" threads that were always started after almost every loss, it seemed like the same type of thread. Call it bad timing or just a poor way of conveying your feelings about Collins, it certainly isn't a thread that would be very popular amongst your Redskins brethren. Even still, when you say things like "many have turned on Campbell" then you just sound like sour grapes. The truth is, if you're going to accuse members here of turning on Campbell, then you'd better be ready to back that up. That isn't a statement of opinion. I can't say "Railcon killed my puppy, but that's just my opinion." That's an accusation and one I must back up with proof. The truth is, the ones singing Campbell's praise (that includes me because I'm Campbell's bandwagon driver,) are still singing his praise. The only difference is we're smart enough to realize since Campbell was/is injured and Collins had the hot hand, it was a no brainer in keeping Collins in. This is IMHO, but I believe a good back up is a guy who can come in when the starter is injured or ineffective and win games for you. This is what Collins did for us. There is only a very few here who feel Collins should and will be starting next season. The large majority of us feel no matter the conclusion of this season, the starting QB job belongs to Jason Campbell. Most of us will say Collins is quality back up. I probably disagree with the reason why he is a back up (weak arm, too slow in the pocket, etc...) atlas, he is a quality backup and I hope he's back on the team next season. __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

01-06-2008, 06:24 PM	#69
DieHardSkin Camp Scrub Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 35	Re: Collin's Good Backup nothing more Are you kidding me? This lose in no way was Todd Collins Fault. I think you make training camp a open competition for quarterback, and see who stands up to take the spot.

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