Merged Thread: Romney Drops Out; Can McCain Defeat Democrats?

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by dmek25

so because one republican senator was caught in a bathroom, they are all?

You know all Republican senators are closet cases.

[dmek25]

i think, for the most part, all people serving in political office mean the best. their views get skewered by money and power. and some by their own parties agenda. we need to over look the , " if a republican said it, it must be right" mentality. this also goes for the democrats. all i know is, whoever takes over running this great country, they have one helluva a mess to clean up

[DynamiteRave]

I'm kind of glad McCain is so far ahead. I don't think Huckabee can catch up that dude doesn't believe in anything. He doesn't believe in gay marriage which many people don't and I can get with that. But he doesn't even wanna allow civil unions and then compares 2 gay people being together as similar to beastiality. He doesn't believe in evolution or probably photosynthesis.

He'd probably suggest a constituational amendment against interracial marriage if he got the chance. I don't like McCain (Hell I'm a democrat, I'm not really for any Republican) But I'd rather see McCain anyday over Huckabee.

[dmek25]

its really time for a democrat in the white house

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by dmek25

its really time for a democrat in the white house

there will be. between hillary , obama and mccain. one of those dems will win. thus flushing our nation further down the toilet.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

there will be. between hillary , obama and mccain. one of those dems will win. thus flushing our nation further down the toilet.

We are in a bad economic state. We are mired in two conflicts that seem endless. Our reputation as a "beacon of light" to the world has been tarnished as our international standing is perhaps at its lowest point ever. I think it's hard to make the case that the Dems can screw things up much more.

As for Republicans disliking McCain so much, what gives? The man grew up idolozing Goldwater, who wasn't exactly a flaming liberal. His voting record in the Senate suggests that he is actually among the more conservative Senators. He served in the military and endured torture for 5 years when he could have left his confinement early. So, he's not conservative because he actually thinks for himself and sometimes departs from the party line?

[dmek25]

thinking the way you do is why nothing ever gets done in congress. no one will listen to another parties ideas, because their ideas came from the " opposition" hopefully Mr Obama will win, and try to unite our great country

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by dmek25

thinking the way you do is why nothing ever gets done in congress. no one will listen to another parties ideas, because their ideas came from the " opposition" hopefully Mr Obama will win, and try to unite our great country

Agreed. But you can't change primitive thinkers dmek, no point in trying to change it now. They're too set in their ways. People just love to push the other guy down when given a chance.

Can't hurt to try though, I suppose.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by dmek25

thinking the way you do is why nothing ever gets done in congress. no one will listen to another parties ideas, because their ideas came from the " opposition" hopefully Mr Obama will win, and try to unite our great country

Do you think Obama is more likely than McCain to work across party lines? If you do, please explain why

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Do you think Obama is more likely than McCain to work across party lines? If you do, please explain why

I'm not saying anyone is more likely. (Even though I know you were addressing dmek). I feel like no matter who runs this country they have to be willing to reach across party lines from time to time to unite and be overall successful.

Although I don't agree with that 100 year war thing..

[RobH4413]

From all the rhetoric I've been hearing amongst the candidates...

I really can't believe that anyone is going to literally bring all of the troops home within four years. A decrease in troops... maybe, but a total withdrawal seems unlikely to me.

I know it's a popular buzz topic that's been floating around, but I just can't make sense of it. The place is a wreck, and it would cause widespread chaos if we just straight up dipped out.

I'm not saying we should stay in Iraq 100 years... I'm just saying that I don't think it's likely any of the candidates will withdraw all of the troops within four... otherwise we'll be back in in even less time.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

From all the rhetoric I've been hearing amongst the candidates...

I really can't believe that anyone is going to literally bring all of the troops home within four years. A decrease in troops... maybe, but a total withdrawal seems unlikely to me.

I know it's a popular buzz topic that's been floating around, but I just can't make sense of it. The place is a wreck, and it would cause widespread chaos if we just straight up dipped out.

I'm not saying we should stay in Iraq 100 years... I'm just saying that I don't think it's likely any of the candidates will withdraw all of the troops within four... otherwise we'll be back in in even less time.

I think it's doable somewhere between 4-8 years. The worse thing we could do is just yank everyone all at once. Hopefully its a small slow withdrawl over time.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

I'm not saying anyone is more likely. (Even though I know you were addressing dmek). I feel like no matter who runs this country they have to be willing to reach across party lines from time to time to unite and be overall successful.

Although I don't agree with that 100 year war thing..

If you're looking for someone to reach across party lines in D.C., look to Hillary and not Obama. After all, Hillary is the compromiser. Outside of D.C., Hillary is a "divider" and Obama draws support from both parties, but I think that's largely a function of his charisma and speaking abilities. I think Obama will likely lose some of his luster after he is in the White House and starts implementing some of his policy objectives.

For example, take Iraq. Some 66% of the American public is "against the war." However, the GOP base gets very upset when people use the word "withdrawal" or "re-deployment." Obama is the candidate most likely to withdraw our troops the fastest, regardless of the "conditions on the ground." When U.S. troops start withdrawing from Iraq and as the progress made by the surge evaporates, expect to see a lot of people up in arms and quite upset with Obama.

I'm still an Obama supporter, but I'm not sure he will be able to unite the country in the way many people think he can. He's certainly going to be a big improvement over GWB, but I don't think he will be the next JFK.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

If you're looking for someone to reach across party lines in D.C., look to Hillary and not Obama. After all, Hillary is the compromiser. Outside of D.C., Hillary is a "divider" and Obama draws support from both parties, but I think that's largely a function of his charisma and speaking abilities. I think Obama will likely lose some of his luster after he is in the White House and starts implementing some of his policy objectives.

For example, take Iraq. Some 66% of the American public is "against the war." However, the GOP base gets very upset when people use the word "withdrawal" or "re-deployment." Obama is the candidate most likely to withdraw our troops the fastest, regardless of the "conditions on the ground." When U.S. troops start withdrawing from Iraq and as the progress made by the surge evaporates, expect to see a lot of people up in arms and quite upset with Obama.

I'm still an Obama supporter, but I'm not sure he will be able to unite the country in the way many people think he can. He's certainly going to be a big improvement over GWB, but I don't think he will be the next JFK.

I'm an Obama supporter as well but I hope if he did get into office and puts a staff together they advise him to slowly withdrawl instead of just pulling everyone really fast.

I've talked to a few guys who are in/were in the military and some who are currently stationed overseas (democrats) and they absolutely, do NOT want Hillary in the White House at all and they've been siding with Obama.

Anyone know why this is?

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Do you think Obama is more likely than McCain to work across party lines? If you do, please explain why

if any republican can work with democrats, its McCain. i really believe that's why the conservatives look at him to be more on the liberal side. the war is really a thorn in Americas side, and McCain sees no reason to end it. the majority of America wants an end in sight. to ignore them creates a division. i agree on a time table, although not a public one. right now the Iraqi government has no sense of urgency to take over their own country. as long as the united states is there, it seems like they don't mind us baby sitting their country