Should Hillary Hang It Up?

[12thMan]

Before it's all said and done, I think Barack will double back to WVA and re-introduce himself to the good folks of West Virginia. He might --might--carry the state in the General, but if he doesn't I'm still not convinced it's political suicide. Still, some pundits are worried.

An interesting stat the Clintons have been tossing out there since Tuesday's win is that no Democrat has won the White House without winning West Virginia since 1916.

I think it's also worth noting that we've never had an African-American to win the nomination either. And to take it a step further, we've never had an African-American and women vying for the nomination. So I think while those statistics are good indicators and benchmarks, it's also important to note that we are in unchartered territory. We continue to use old rules and "yesterday's" electoral map for a new type of election, with new candidates.

[saden1]

Obama draws 75,000 in Oregon. That's insane.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by saden1

Obama draws 75,000 in Oregon. That's insane.

Impressive indeed, but lets see him do that in a state that's not 90% socialist.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Buster

Impressive indeed, but lets see him do that in a state that's not 90% socialist.

Oregon use to be a swing state, makes you wonder what happened to turn it into a socialist state I guess they lost their ways and joined the dark side.

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by saden1

Oregon use to be a swing state, makes you wonder what happened to turn it into a socialist state I guess they lost their ways and joined the dark side.

And Kansas used to be the heart of the Populism. Don't know much about Oregon, but if your statements are true then perhaps they haven't erased economics from their understanding of class.

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by Buster

Impressive indeed, but lets see him do that in a state that's not 90% socialist.

Actually Buster Kerry narrowly carried Oregon 51 to 47 percent in the 04 election.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

Actually Buster Kerry narrowly carried Oregon 51 to 47 percent in the 04 election.

Yes, John Kerry...the perfect example of an ideal candidate.

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by Buster

Yes, John Kerry...the perfect example of an ideal candidate.

I'm just saying it's pretty much a swing state so what you said, even though intended to be funny, didn't make any sense.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by saden1

Obama draws 75,000 in Oregon. That's insane.

Ineresting omission by the media.

Free Concert by Popular Band Preceded Obama’s Big Rally | NewsBusters.org

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Buster

Ineresting omission by the media.

Free Concert by Popular Band Preceded Obama’s Big Rally | NewsBusters.org

Yeah, but those kinds of things are pretty common. Repubs and Dems often use bands, celebrities and other politicians to help draw crowds. It's pretty hard to deny that Obama has a big and devoted "fan base."

[12thMan]

You know, 75K is an impressive number by any measurement for either party.

[onlydarksets]

Well, she's definitely not going anywhere:
Clinton to Obama: Not so fast - Yahoo! News

[dmek25]

all kind of love being passed around on the warpath- it brings a tear to my eye

[Hog1]

Ahhh....Wewhite........memories....that's beautiful

[MTK]

I'm sure that 75,000 people weren't there just to see The Decemberists. I'm pretty up to date with music and I have no idea who they even are. Their last album peaked at #35 on the Billboard 200, I guess they're not exactly a household name so maybe that's why some papers didn't report it? I mean if it was Springsteen or someone like that I'm sure that would have been news.