Don't you think we are overreacting just a bit??

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by KWilly_2003

MattyK72, I just want to say god bless you. Sometimes I even wonder if there are real redskins fans still left. We have a rookie HC and a young QB learning his 5 or 6th off. My god people just give them a chance, after the first 5 weeks things ease up on us. All 3 NFC East teams on the road in the first 5 weeks! Come on thats a killer right there, and its not helping Zorn out at all. If Danny will leave Zorn alone, maybe he can flush out this waste on this team and draft some players that will take us to the next level.

So essentially you're calling for patience and hope for future seasons. Sounds about right to me, because this season is not likely to end up above .500.

[JWsleep]

I am already very tired of this stuff.

Here's what's gonna happen. We'll play the season and see what goes down.

Prediction: Skins fans (like most fans) will react as they always do: like fanatics.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by JWsleep

I am already very tired of this stuff.

Here's what's gonna happen. We'll play the season and see what goes down.

Prediction: Skins fans (like most fans) will react as they always do: like fanatics.

Bingo. The one thing I get sick of is the notion that all of this "overreaction" is somehow peculiar to Redskins fans.

Please.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by JWsleep

I am already very tired of this stuff.

Here's what's gonna happen. We'll play the season and see what goes down.

Prediction: Skins fans (like most fans) will react as they always do: like fanatics.

I'll see you in four weeks when the bottom drops out.

Til then enjoy your stay in denial.

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

I'll see you in four weeks when the bottom drops out.

Til then enjoy your stay in denial.

Skinny Tee, if the team gets it together I absolutely don't want to see you around here flip-flopping and getting on the bandwagon.

And if they don't I don't want to see you around here gloating over how right you were either.

I think you can see where I'm going with this.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

Skinny Tee, if the team gets it together I absolutely don't want to see you around here flip-flopping and getting on the bandwagon.

And if they don't I don't want to see you around here gloating over how right you were either.

I think you can see where I'm going with this.

LOL...I think you are speaking for most of us here.

I had a problem with several negative nancy's last year, and it appears they are still in full force this year. To me, a fan is a fan regardless of circumstance...if you predict doom, and even have a hatred about it, you are not a fan. Fans have optimism. Maybe I have a different definition of being a fan than some of you, but being optimistic is kind of a prerequisite.

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by jsarno

LOL...I think you are speaking for most of us here.

I had a problem with several negative nancy's last year, and it appears they are still in full force this year. To me, a fan is a fan regardless of circumstance...if you predict doom, and even have a hatred about it, you are not a fan. Fans have optimism. Maybe I have a different definition of being a fan than some of you, but being optimistic is kind of a prerequisite.

Yeah, looks like it's going to be another year with a bunch of mini-JLC's freaking out and wanting to fire everyone from the ballboys to the owner everytime we don't win. I don't mind pessimism, it's the people who would rather see the team lose just so they can be right...there's a lot of them and I wish they would just become Eagles fans and leave us alone.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

Skinny Tee, if the team gets it together I absolutely don't want to see you around here flip-flopping and getting on the bandwagon.

And if they don't I don't want to see you around here gloating over how right you were either.

I think you can see where I'm going with this.

Take the blue pill man. Zion is waiting.


...It's just a perspective. If I'm wrong then hey it won't be the first time. But if I were to ask if they are going to suck this year and shake the magic eight ball, I would say that it says "All sign point to Yes"

[KWilly_2003]

Thank you GMScud. It took two years for Hasselbeck to become a top QB. JC just needs time. And for those who said Zorn lays the blame on the players is not true. He said right off the bat that he wishs he had plays back, and that the clock managment was bad. Hes new to this too people. Football is a little bit harder down on the field then it is in your PS3 people. Gibbs went 0-5 in his first 5 games in 1981, to later finish 8-8......then next year.....hummmm....

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by KWilly_2003

Thank you GMScud. It took two years for Hasselbeck to become a top QB. JC just needs time. And for those who said Zorn lays the blame on the players is not true. He said right off the bat that he wishs he had plays back, and that the clock managment was bad. Hes new to this too people. Football is a little bit harder down on the field then it is in your PS3 people. Gibbs went 0-5 in his first 5 games in 1981, to later finish 8-8......then next year.....hummmm....

Sorry but there is no excuse for running Portis into the pile with 6 minutes to go and not running hurry up when we're down two scores. That was almost a fireable offense right there. No urgency what so ever. We might not win against NO cause I think they're better than we are. But at least I want us to be prepared.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by KWilly_2003

Thank you GMScud. It took two years for Hasselbeck to become a top QB. JC just needs time. And for those who said Zorn lays the blame on the players is not true. He said right off the bat that he wishs he had plays back, and that the clock managment was bad. Hes new to this too people. Football is a little bit harder down on the field then it is in your PS3 people. Gibbs went 0-5 in his first 5 games in 1981, to later finish 8-8......then next year.....hummmm....

I don't mean to be rude, but that 0-5 to 8-8 analogy about Gibbs is getting old. Gibbs had everything going for him then: HOF talent, a great owner and probably the best GM in NFL history, to help get him into Canton. Gibbs also had a kick ass offensive scheme ala air Coryell. Since you love the 0-5 to 8-8 analogy, Marty did the same thing in 2000, but didn't go anywhere the next year, as he got canned. Not saying we can't do it this season, but I highly doubt we are going to reach 8-8. THe coach is brand new, the scheme is brand new, and let's face it, other than Portis and maybe Cooley, who is really HOF potential here?

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by KWilly_2003

Thank you GMScud. It took two years for Hasselbeck to become a top QB. JC just needs time. And for those who said Zorn lays the blame on the players is not true. He said right off the bat that he wishs he had plays back, and that the clock managment was bad. Hes new to this too people. Football is a little bit harder down on the field then it is in your PS3 people. Gibbs went 0-5 in his first 5 games in 1981, to later finish 8-8......then next year.....hummmm....

Marty Schottenheimer also started 0-5 here, later to finish 8-8.

Then next year ... hummmm ... it was Steve Spurrier. Let's hope Dan Snyder has the same sort of eternal patience some of the fans here have.

[T.A.P.O.A.F.O.R.]

so i also get the impression that this jumping on the team thing keeps coming earlier and earlier in the year, and its unwarranted. honestly, i blame snyder and his shenanigans. fans don't trust that the organization is doing things well or even fairly. various times over the last 8-9 years some of us (defintely me) have felt duped over the latest 'improvements'. and so every year we criticize earlier because dammit, we're not going to get overly optimistic and feel fooled again. even vinny has gotten (a bit) too much criticism because of this. but he probably doesn't deserve as much as he's getting and ndefinitely zorn or jc don't deserve it. let's chill out and give'em a chance...

[TurlockSkinsFan]

I do believe we are all overreacting, every one of us. I mean we have been frustrated the last four years, and with Zorn being hired I think that we all believed there would be a 180 from coach Joe. The thing is that learning a new offense is hard to do especially when it's a big difference from what the team has been doing. I'm not making excuses because these guys are professionals (blocking is blocking, tackling is tackling, going past the first down marker on third down...etc) they should be able to do the fundamentals,
but playing in a new offense in a hostile environment will hinder the things that we want to do. One thing I am throughly disappointed in is Zorn's clock management. A guy who played quarterback in the NFL should know when to use his 2 and 4 minute offensive calls. On a positive Portis will be a beast when he gets his legs under him and Blache adjusted our D in the second half.
By week 4 or 5 this team should really begin clicking

[safety blitz]

Its just frustrating because we looked so good in the first to preseason games and we got to excited, when we all knew it was probably going to be like this till we get the new system down. But that first half, I was about to say get the gunslinger brennan in there sometimes you got to go with the hot hand, and he has it. Its like Madden has said a couple of times he just brings some kind energy to the huddle. Not saying lets dump JC cause I think he will be a good QB, but if he is struggling let him sit out a few downs to get his thoughts together. Whats it going to hurt! The thing that bugs me is our offense, we got to put up 35 points a game to go anywhere. I just want a dominating team like we used to have, when we would beat most of the league, a long time ago.