Peter King says Browns and Skins discuss pick swap

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

You know what would be awesome? If the Browns and Skins make the trade before the draft and the Seahawks take Sanchez, then Danny would eat shit and maybe learn a lesson the hard way. This won't happen, I guarantee that the Seahawks will take Sanchez. The only way this trade occurs is if they trade with either Detroit, Rams or Chiefs.

Hey Danny can eat all the crap in the world, I wouldn't mind if this happened b/c then we can get Orakpo, Jason Smith (if he were to fall that far), or some other top player that is not Mark Sanchez.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Hey Danny can eat all the crap in the world, I wouldn't mind if this happened b/c then we can get Orakpo, Jason Smith (if he were to fall that far), or some other top player that is not Mark Sanchez.

There you go again trading the farm for one good player, just like giving millions to 3 players when you can fill many holes with that money. The smartest thing the Skins could do is trade down get more picks and fill the OL, DE and LB position which we have holes in.

[53Fan]

The last thing I thought we'd be talking about would be trading up from #13. We have no freakin picks to begin with. What the hell happened?

[Skins_4_Lyfe]

I'm sensing alot of hate...but if by some chance we were to get Sanchez, please, please, please, just accept him and don't treat him like the Philly fans did McNabb. Once you put on that burgundy and gold we as fans have to support you...I just don't think he's mentally tough enough to ever overcome being booed by fans...If he has any chance of success here, he will need to be comfortable from the start

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Skins_4_Lyfe

I'm sensing alot of hate...but if by some chance we were to get Sanchez, please, please, please, just accept him and don't treat him like the Philly fans did McNabb. Once you put on that burgundy and gold we as fans have to support you...I just don't think he's mentally tough enough to ever overcome being booed by fans...If he has any chance of success here, he will need to be comfortable from the start

Why hate Sanchez? He's done nothing to deserve being hated. Let's see what the FO does before we all get excited and then judge the after effects of the trade whether it's up or down (preferably down). Maybe there's no trade.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Skins_4_Lyfe

I'm sensing alot of hate...but if by some chance we were to get Sanchez, please, please, please, just accept him and don't treat him like the Philly fans did McNabb. Once you put on that burgundy and gold we as fans have to support you...I just don't think he's mentally tough enough to ever overcome being booed by fans...If he has any chance of success here, he will need to be comfortable from the start

In other words he's alot like Cutler? I'll take JC over either one of them and if he can't stand the heat we definitely don't want him.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

In other words he's alot like Cutler? I'll take JC over either one of them and if he can't stand the heat we definitely don't want him.

Right on!

[Skins_4_Lyfe]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

In other words he's alot like Cutler? I'll take JC over either one of them and if he can't stand the heat we definitely don't want him.

That's rediculous...everyone that has been saying that Campbell is better than Cuttler cannot really beleive that. Are you blind? People can play the numbers game all day and compare Ws and Ls but at the end of the day "You gotta be as blind as Anne Frank not to see that" Cutler has passed Campbell by leaps and bounds as far as their development. Since everyone likes playing with numbers compare TDs/game between the two...I haven't even done the research, I just know that should be one number that Cutler has alot more than Campbell...Cutler didn't loose all those games by himself, just as Campbell didn't go 2-6 all by himself...I just don't want to hear another person bring up the W-L stat again, that by far is a TEAM stat.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Skins_4_Lyfe

That's rediculous...everyone that has been saying that Campbell is better than Cuttler cannot really beleive that. Are you blind? People can play the numbers game all day and compare Ws and Ls but at the end of the day "You gotta be as blind as Anne Frank not to see that" Cutler has passed Campbell by leaps and bounds as far as their development. Since everyone likes playing with numbers compare TDs/game between the two...I haven't even done the research, I just know that should be one number that Cutler has alot more than Campbell...Cutler didn't loose all those games by himself, just as Campbell didn't go 2-6 all by himself...I just don't want to hear another person bring up the W-L stat again, that by far is a TEAM stat.

Ok, let's run some numbers from last year:
Cutler 25 Td's, 18 interceptions
Campbell 13 TD's, 6 Int's

So Cutler had not quite twice the touchdowns but three times the interceptions. In terms of TD to interception ratio, Campbell wins.

Put differently: What use is Cutler to Denver? None, because he whined his way out of town. Who's to say that he wouldn't whine his way out of Washington, too, and thus be useless to us as well?

Put even more differently: Have you ever seen opponents like Rivers mocking Cutler? They think he's a weenie! JC, on the other hand, appears to draw the respect of opponents. I personally prefer to have a qb who is not the laughingstock of opposing players.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Skins_4_Lyfe

That's rediculous...everyone that has been saying that Campbell is better than Cuttler cannot really beleive that. Are you blind? People can play the numbers game all day and compare Ws and Ls but at the end of the day "You gotta be as blind as Anne Frank not to see that" Cutler has passed Campbell by leaps and bounds as far as their development. Since everyone likes playing with numbers compare TDs/game between the two...I haven't even done the research, I just know that should be one number that Cutler has alot more than Campbell...Cutler didn't loose all those games by himself, just as Campbell didn't go 2-6 all by himself...I just don't want to hear another person bring up the W-L stat again, that by far is a TEAM stat.

I think what is ridiculous is that there are still people like you singing the praises of a whiney ass player like Cutler who hasn't proven a damn thing. As for being blind, where did you see me say Campbell was better than Cutler? I said I'd rather have Campbell than Cutler and I stand by that. T.O. has talent too but I don't want him on our team. Put your glasses on and learn how to spell.

[Dirtbag59]

"Funny they say he does not have great physical size, but he is like 6-2, 227lbs."

Actually everyones wrong here. Sanchez apparently is a good 6'2. I think scouts though just like his bulk.

Height-Weight-Speed -2 - Adequate height with a strong build. When healthy, he displays good speed and agility for the position. (1 being the best 5 being the worst)

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Skins_4_Lyfe

I'm sensing alot of hate...but if by some chance we were to get Sanchez, please, please, please, just accept him and don't treat him like the Philly fans did McNabb. Once you put on that burgundy and gold we as fans have to support you...I just don't think he's mentally tough enough to ever overcome being booed by fans...If he has any chance of success here, he will need to be comfortable from the start

Yeah, cause Redskins fans have been known to be exceptionally kind and patient with their QB! Not being mentally tough enough isn't really the type of endorsement you want for an incoming QB.

[Dirtbag59]

Any chance in hell we trade up for Orakpo because my latest temper tantrum has me wanting to imitate the Giants D-Line.

[GusFrerotte]

We draft Sanchez, guess what, it won't be season over, it might as well be franchise over until Snyder sells the team. Sanchez is not needed at this point in time. JC is the man unless he sucks this season and he probably won't be resigned, leaving Brennan as the probable heir, unless we do some bigtime dealing in 2010 to get Bradford or McCoy. Personally I don't see Sanchez being worth a bucket full of piss in the NFL. Hard to suck on such a stacked team as USC in such a pussy conference. USC would be a 3-4 loss team in the SEC and Big 12 and a 1-2 loss team in the Big 10 every year. Sanchez=Schuler. Mark my words.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

We draft Sanchez, guess what, it won't be season over, it might as well be franchise over until Snyder sells the team. Sanchez is not needed at this point in time. JC is the man unless he sucks this season and he probably won't be resigned, leaving Brennan as the probable heir, unless we do some bigtime dealing in 2010 to get Bradford or McCoy. Personally I don't see Sanchez being worth a bucket full of piss in the NFL. Hard to suck on such a stacked team as USC in such a pussy conference. USC would be a 3-4 loss team in the SEC and Big 12 and a 1-2 loss team in the Big 10 every year. Sanchez=Schuler. Mark my words.

Which, by my estimate, is sometime around the year 2030.