Obama Nominates Sotomayor to SCOTUS

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by dmek25

better go back and re read the previous posts. it was my man trample

My main man DMEK, she brought it up in front of a meeting of La Raza, aka the race. So I can't see how race isn't an issue when she brought it up in front of a group named, The Race?

This apointment has identity politics written all over it. After she said she was more qualified than a white man because she was a poor Puerto Rican I needed nothing else.

What I see Obama or whoever came up with this lady doing was this, they looked for a particular race and gender and then saw if she was a good judge. I don't think she is. That's just my gut. She has Ruth Commie Ginsburg II written all over her.

The whole of my argument is that, they should see if a person is a good judge FIRST, and if he or she should be a blind homosexual Eskimo vegetarian, then so be it.

The last time I checked Alito isn't an Anglo Saxon Protestant, neither is Scalia or Thomas. In fact I don't see how Scalia isn't the first Latin Justice since Italians / Romans invented the language? How many Cherokee or Monacan Justices have we had? Oh that's right! They don't have a huge voting block.

Forgive me, but my dog needs a species sensitive brushing. Peace!

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Her she even admits that she thinks she can make and change the laws as she sees fit.

YouTube - Sonia Sotomayor: Courts make policy...

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by saden1

This is where deep understanding of the founding of our governmental structure is and the reasoning behind it is required. You won't get this information for the Levins of the world for they betray you at the expense of making a buck. Me, I go straight to the source...the writings of John Adams a.k.a. Marchmont Nedham and James Madison.

I wouldn't consider Levin a sell-out. You may not agree with his views but to label him as a sell-out is incorrect. A lot more substance to Levin than most of the talking heads.

Good read on your quotes, but as I knew they would, they refer to the overall structure of government, not the judical branch in particular. I agree that the primary function of the overall structure of our government is to protect the rights of the few against the will of the many. Lately, this appears to be good news for us poor conservatives

To my point: "Interpreting the laws and Constitution of the U.S., with regards to the cases presented to it, is the single most important job of the judicial branch"

from whitehouse.gov: ".....The courts only try actual cases and controversies — a party must show that it has been harmed in order to bring suit in court. This means that the courts do not issue advisory opinions on the constitutionality of laws or the legality of actions if the ruling would have no practical effect....
.....Federal courts enjoy the sole power to interpret the law, determine the constitutionality of the law, and apply it to individual cases. "

The Judicial Branch

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Oh, if I could only be so arrogant

Keep trying

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Hog1

You know D, it is not a matter of IQ......and I take a quote from someone we all know.
Have a take....don't suck!
It seems to me in the political arena, you squander your oppurtunities at debate on useless name calling, baseless anti-(anything but raging demspeak) GOP.... AND, George Bush is no longer in office.........give it a rest. Anyway, we have both been around here for a while. SOMETIMES you have to have a thick skin.......
HTTR

Well put

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You're still on that stupid claim aren't you? I may disagree with saden often when it comes to politics, but I believe he's pretty intelligent and educated on such matters.

You, on the other hand...it amazes me how nearly every time you post in a thread about politics how ignorant you are. Just stuns me. Where do you come off claiming that Republicans hate women in power? What proof do you have?

By the way, do you remember which party was sitting in the White House when the first female Supreme Court Judge was selected?

Do the names Elizabeth Dole, Margaret Spellings, Elaine Chao, Gale Norton, Christine Todd Whitman, Susan Collins, Olympia Snowe, Kay Bailey Hutchison, Margaret Chase Smith, Kay Orr (country's first female governor), Jodi Rell, Jeannette Ranking (first congresswoman), Marsha Blackburn, or Jean Schmidt ring a bell at all?

I think you mean well and it's great you like to be involved in the whole political process...but it's just not your forte. I think I could speak Aramaic more eloquently than you could speak politics. You're probably better off just sitting on the sidelines and letting saden and 70Chip debate each other

It's stuff like that that keeps me for the most part out of the political threads. I love to read the arguments, and both sides of the aisle have some very intelligent posters around here. Occasionally I chime in, but largely I lurk. Sometimes I have to put my fist in my mouth. I know if I get started I'll spend untold hours on this site that I just don't have.

Anyway, I'm not going to criticize Sotomayor because Obama and Co. warned us critics to be "exceedingly careful." I have nightmares of Rahm-bo standing over my bed with a knife.

White House to Sonia Sotomayor critics: Be 'careful' - Alexander Burns and Josh Gerstein - POLITICO.com

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

F you Saden. I am so-called Hispanic. It's a made up term and so is Latino. You're not as smart as you think you are.

actually i have to agree with TTE here. "hispanic" wasnt a word until US immigration made it up as a category of race to my knowledge . . . .older hispanic persons ive talked to about this said it was at one time viewed as a derogatory term among "hispanics" b/c it took away their actual identity and lumped them all into one easy category whether you were from south america, mexico puerto rico, spain etc., you, for americans convenience, were all branded as "hispanic".

now its just an accepted term i doubt most young hispanics even know the origin of.

go skins!!

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

actually i have to agree with TTE here. "hispanic" wasnt a word until US immigration made it up as a category of race to my knowledge . . . .older hispanic persons ive talked to about this said it was at one time viewed as a derogatory term among "hispanics" b/c it took away their actual identity and lumped them all into one easy category whether you were from south america, mexico puerto rico, spain etc., you, for americans convenience, were all branded as "hispanic".

now its just an accepted term i doubt most young hispanics even know the origin of.

go skins!!

You know the term Redneck came about when American's with Indian blood were told their necks were too red to vote. Now people run around like it has something to do with working class WASPs and it's some kind of badge of honor.

Thank you for recognizing that old schoolers don't like being put into some made up ethnic group with people from another race and culture. I can't speak for everyone else but I don't appreciate people speaking on my behalf.

I would find it insulting to find out that I was elevated to a position because I've got a dash of Indian blood and some egg head thinks I'm some kind of minority. The last time I checked I was surrounded by my fellow country-men.

Judge Soda-Maker thinks because she's Puerto Rican that makes her smarter than Caucasians. That is racist BS. Had it been a white man saying these things the liberal media would've shat.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

You know the term Redneck came about when American's with Indian blood were told their necks were too red to vote. Now people run around like it has something to do with working class WASPs and it's some kind of badge of honor.

Thank you for recognizing that old schoolers don't like being put into some made up ethnic group with people from another race and culture. I can't speak for everyone else but I don't appreciate people speaking on my behalf.

I would find it insulting to find out that I was elevated to a position because I've got a dash of Indian blood and some egg head thinks I'm some kind of minority. The last time I checked I was surrounded by my fellow country-men.

Judge Soda-Maker thinks because she's Puerto Rican that makes her smarter than Caucasians. That is racist BS. Had it been a white man saying these things the liberal media would've shat.

Aren't double standards great?

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Originally Posted by GMScud

Aren't double standards great?

No if a white man had said that he never would have been picked in the first place.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

You know the term Redneck came about when American's with Indian blood were told their necks were too red to vote. Now people run around like it has something to do with working class WASPs and it's some kind of badge of honor.

not that i am some kind of class label expert but i was told the term "redneck" came from west virginia coal miner (union) workers who fought (and lost real bad) to coal miner company hired guns/army? coal mine workers tied red bandannas around their neck so they could tell who was who.

im gonna google it now and see whats up.

go skins!!

"The popular etymology says that the term derives from such individuals having a red neck caused by working outdoors in the sunlight over the course of their lifetime. The effect of decades of direct sunlight on the exposed skin of the back of the neck not only reddens fair skin, but renders it leathery and tough, and typically very wrinkled by late middle age. Another popular theory stems from the use of red bandanas tied around the neck to signify union affiliation during the violent clashes between United Mine Workers and owners between 1910 and 1920."

yeah i believe the origin i was told.

[over the mountain]

to further my story as it was told to me about the term "redneck" (i was born west virginia, got family out there, i am a redneck).

the union workers/rednecks would expectedly come over the same ridge/hill, the army/hired guns would wait for them to come over then light them up with canon fire they had arranged right across the ridge. more of a massacre repeated every day until the rednecks figured things out.

go skins!!!

[saden1]

A little research goes a long way. Sotomayor is good to go.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by saden1

A little research goes a long way. Sotomayor is good to go.

Curious which case MM is not considering based on the list below from CNN. I'm assuming they're not including Ricci. Also which is the second upheld case?

Cases Reviewed by the Supreme Court
• Ricci v. DeStefano 530 F.3d 87 (2008) -- decision pending as of 5/26/2009
• Riverkeeper, Inc. vs. EPA, 475 F.3d 83 (2007) -- reversed 6-3 (Dissenting: Stevens, Souter, Ginsburg)
• Knight vs. Commissioner, 467 F.3d 149 (2006) -- upheld, but reasoning was unanimously faulted
• Dabit vs. Merrill Lynch, 395 F.3d 25 (2005) -- reversed 8-0
• Empire Healthchoice Assurance, Inc. vs. McVeigh, 396 F.3d 136 (2005) -- reversed 5-4 (Dissenting: Breyer, Kennedy, Souter, Alito)
• Malesko v. Correctional Services Corp., 299 F.3d 374 (2000) -- reversed 5-4 (Dissenting: Stevens, Souter, Ginsburg, Breyer)
• Tasini vs. New York Times, et al, 972 F. Supp. 804 (1997) -- reversed 7-2 (Dissenting: Stevens, Breyer)

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I don't even care what cases like this she got right or wrong her thinking she can rule like a king is what I don't like.