Eli Manning vs Jason Campbell

Lotus · 07-05-2009, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ethat001

Well, the two QBs you refer to were:
- Kerry Collins (made it to post-season on defense, running game)
- Chad Pennington -- had a good season

EVERY QB on the top of my list was in contention for the playoffs, including both superbowl QB's. Even Gus Frerotte was 8-3 for the Vikings before he got injured.

Anyway, clearly I'm not advocating throwing interceptions. I know they kill drives and morale. I think 53Fan sees my point -- hopefully JC loosens up a bit and actually trusts our WR's this year to throw to them.

Well, you are in good company then, because everyone is saying that, including JC.

53Fan · 07-05-2009, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ethat001

Well, the two QBs you refer to were:
- Kerry Collins (made it to post-season on defense, running game)
- Chad Pennington -- had a good season

EVERY QB on the top of my list was in contention for the playoffs, including both superbowl QB's. Even Gus Frerotte was 8-3 for the Vikings before he got injured.

Anyway, clearly I'm not advocating throwing interceptions. I know they kill drives and morale. I think 53Fan sees my point -- hopefully JC loosens up a bit and actually trusts our WR's this year to throw to them.

I understand completely.

I'd like to see our QB be able to make it RAIN on the poor bastards if needed to. Hail Redskins!

skindeep · 07-06-2009, 01:13 PM

JC well destroy Eli this year

Giantone · 07-06-2009, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by skindeep

JC well destroy Eli this year

JC doesn't play Eli,he plays the Giants D.

DBUCHANON101 · 07-06-2009, 06:10 PM

Hate to say it but the facts dont lie. Eli has had his team in the playoffs each yr, JC hasnt.

Lotus · 07-06-2009, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

Hate to say it but the facts dont lie. Eli has had his team in the playoffs each yr, JC hasnt.

I wasn't aware that JC and Eli play every position on their teams.

JLee9718 · 07-06-2009, 07:02 PM

The Giants had a super offensive line. The Redskins don't. You can be a pretty darn good QB if you have protection.

GusFrerotte · 07-06-2009, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JLee9718

The Giants had a super offensive line. The Redskins don't. You can be a pretty darn good QB if you have protection.

Thus lies JC's big problem. Can't have an effective offense with the aging, held together by duct tape line that we do. Not only does JC get hindered by this but if we have to rely on Clinton heavily again this season he might get really banged up. I appreciate that the FO finally addressed the D line, but we were ranked 4th in total D while we were what 28th in scoring?

DBUCHANON101 · 07-06-2009, 07:57 PM

when the SKins have a defense thats not in the top 15 you can throw the team under the bus, until then its all on the QB and the offense to get us there. and with guys like Moss,Cooley and CP there is really no excuse for us to miss the playoffs.

GTripp0012 · 07-06-2009, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

when the SKins have a defense thats not in the top 15 you can throw the team under the bus, until then its all on the QB and the offense to get us there. and with guys like Moss,Cooley and CP there is really no excuse for us to miss the playoffs.

No one is throwing anyone under the bus except you.

GusFrerotte · 07-06-2009, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

when the SKins have a defense thats not in the top 15 you can throw the team under the bus, until then its all on the QB and the offense to get us there. and with guys like Moss,Cooley and CP there is really no excuse for us to miss the playoffs.

You forget our Achilles heel my good man, and that is our offensive line, which is aging and battered. Not to forget our woefully young and unproven WR corp.

Ruhskins · 07-06-2009, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

You forget our Achilles heel my good man, and that is our offensive line, which is aging and battered.

Dude, don't even bother with this guy. To him, JC is the sole reason our team didn't do well last year.

GusFrerotte · 07-06-2009, 11:43 PM

I bitch about JC too, but he is not half of our problems. No O line and not much depth are always our undoing for the past 4 seasons. Not to mention the crappy turnover ratio.

SBXVII · 07-07-2009, 03:07 PM

I don't care what the stats show. JC over Eli any day. JC has more ability then Eli. Both are not that great at reading defenses. Put JC on a team with an O-line where he can have all day to decide who to throw like Eli has and he would out shine.

DBUCHANON101 · 07-07-2009, 03:44 PM

First 8 games of the season = JC sacked 16 times
last 8 games = he was sacked 22 times. 7 of those came in ONE game vs the Steelers. so thats 15 in the other 7 games. Close to the same avg as the beginning of the season.

Not sayin the line was perfect but to act like we are how Houston used to be with our QB getting killed each week is a stretch.

07-06-2009, 01:13 PM	#3
skindeep Camp Scrub Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Great State of Texas Age: 44 Posts: 98	Re: Eli Manning vs Jason Campbell JC well destroy Eli this year

07-06-2009, 06:10 PM	#5
DBUCHANON101 The Starter Join Date: May 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,373	Re: Eli Manning vs Jason Campbell Hate to say it but the facts dont lie. Eli has had his team in the playoffs each yr, JC hasnt.

07-06-2009, 07:02 PM	#7
JLee9718 Impact Rookie Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 573	Re: Eli Manning vs Jason Campbell The Giants had a super offensive line. The Redskins don't. You can be a pretty darn good QB if you have protection.

07-06-2009, 07:57 PM	#9
DBUCHANON101 The Starter Join Date: May 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,373	Re: Eli Manning vs Jason Campbell when the SKins have a defense thats not in the top 15 you can throw the team under the bus, until then its all on the QB and the offense to get us there. and with guys like Moss,Cooley and CP there is really no excuse for us to miss the playoffs.

07-06-2009, 11:43 PM	#13
GusFrerotte Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Detroit area Posts: 4,153	Re: Eli Manning vs Jason Campbell I bitch about JC too, but he is not half of our problems. No O line and not much depth are always our undoing for the past 4 seasons. Not to mention the crappy turnover ratio.

07-07-2009, 03:07 PM	#14
SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,766	Re: Eli Manning vs Jason Campbell I don't care what the stats show. JC over Eli any day. JC has more ability then Eli. Both are not that great at reading defenses. Put JC on a team with an O-line where he can have all day to decide who to throw like Eli has and he would out shine.

07-07-2009, 03:44 PM	#15
DBUCHANON101 The Starter Join Date: May 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,373	Re: Eli Manning vs Jason Campbell First 8 games of the season = JC sacked 16 times last 8 games = he was sacked 22 times. 7 of those came in ONE game vs the Steelers. so thats 15 in the other 7 games. Close to the same avg as the beginning of the season. Not sayin the line was perfect but to act like we are how Houston used to be with our QB getting killed each week is a stretch.

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