Romo gets dissed again.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Exactly. Has any QB, no matter how good he is, ever won a Super Bowl with a sucky team? Even Marino couldn't do it.

Marino ,got to the super bowl as did McNabb..............Romo ...who is whom we are discussing........has not won a playoff game.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Marino ,got to the super bowl as did McNabb..............Romo ...who is whom we are discussing........has not won a playoff game.

Did you know that if the Cowboys lose their next playoff game, they will set an NFL record for most consecutive playoff losses at 7?

While I hope that the Cowpatties do not make the playoffs, it will be sweet if/when they set that record for futility.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Did you know that if the Cowboys lose their next playoff game, they will set an NFL record for most consecutive playoff losses at 7?

While I hope that the Cowpatties do not make the playoffs, it will be sweet if/when they set that record for futility.

You serious? I cant wait to share this fact with Homo fans I know

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Did you know that if the Cowboys lose their next playoff game, they will set an NFL record for most consecutive playoff losses at 7?

While I hope that the Cowpatties do not make the playoffs, it will be sweet if/when they set that record for futility.

What a great stat. Hell yeah. I have a feeling that the Giants and Dallas will be the 3rd and 4th place teams in the division this year. If Dallas is in 3rd and makes the wild card somehow, I could definitely see them losing in the first round.

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Did you know that if the Cowboys lose their next playoff game, they will set an NFL record for most consecutive playoff losses at 7?

While I hope that the Cowpatties do not make the playoffs, it will be sweet if/when they set that record for futility.

What you say is true.
But they still are the top team in playoff history at:

Total Wins (32)
Most consecutive seasons in the playoffs (9)
Most games (56)
Most seasons in the playoffs (29)

Gotta take the good with the bad I suppose.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Exactly. Has any QB, no matter how good he is, ever won a Super Bowl with a sucky team? Even Marino couldn't do it.

Eli?

Kidding.

Uh, Brady's first SB winning team was pretty run of the mill, and not all that much better in the first round of the playoffs. I think, moreover, there have been plenty of near-miss super bowl stories from not-so-great teams, like Marino, as you mentioned, but also Warner this year, the 2003 Panthers, the 1985 and 1996 Patriots as well.

I guess the Raiders of 1980 would probably be called the "worst" super bowl winner of all time, but Jim Plunkett isn't exactly on the verge of Canton. Anyway, looks like your big picture point holds. Downright sucky teams don't win the SB.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Eli?

Kidding.

Uh, Brady's first SB winning team was pretty run of the mill, and not all that much better in the first round of the playoffs. I think, moreover, there have been plenty of near-miss super bowl stories from not-so-great teams, like Marino, as you mentioned, but also Warner this year, the 2003 Panthers, the 1985 and 1996 Patriots as well.

I guess the Raiders of 1980 would probably be called the "worst" super bowl winner of all time, but Jim Plunkett isn't exactly on the verge of Canton. Anyway, looks like your big picture point holds. Downright sucky teams don't win the SB.

Define good, because they played very well and were coached well. That is a good team. If you are talking talent, sure I agree.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Define good, because they played very well and were coached well. That is a good team. If you are talking talent, sure I agree.

There's probably something to Cowher and Martz getting outcoached in the playoffs there. By run of the mill, I mean "fringe playoff team for most of the regular season."

Of course, you win your division, you get to the playoffs, but I don't think that if it happened a year later (after the divisional reorganization) that they would have had a bye in the playoffs, and without that bye week, there's more or less zero chance of that team coming out of the AFC.

What they started, of course, was the launching pad of more than a couple hall of fame careers, and the very genesis of one of the best 5 year runs in NFL history under Brady, but I think that team was more in the right place at the right time than anything else.

Though I want to extend full credit for playing THE perfect game against the Rams, much like the Giants played THE perfect game against the Pats 6 years later.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

I love when ppl use the rings to say a player is better than another head to head.
SB's are a TEAM ACHIEVEMENT!!
.

So what ,he has the ring and he came through when they needed him to.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Jacobs on Romo: "I don't think he's that good a passer"

"I'm not a fan of Tony Romo, no. Keep him in the pocket, he's not that good. . . . His luck will be gone sooner or later. If you were to keep Tony Romo in the pocket he's not that effective."

Brandon Jacob's is hilarious because Tony Romo is a STUD! This guy is an idiot, Romo has been a BEAST since he started against NY a few years ago. There is no doubt about it, Romo is a top 10 QB (And is way better than SHELI Manning) And I hate dallas but this is just something dumb to say.
That's like if I said Adrian Peterson is overated lol

I think you are letting the stats skew your view of Romo. From September through November most of what you say is true. I disagree that he is better than Eli. Eli has made huge plays when it counted for a Championship team. All Romo has ever done in December and January is make mistakes that his team could not overcome. You cannot laud a QB whose esophagus tightens up in every crucial game. As far as being a top 10 QB, I could probably name 15 that I would rather in a playoff game at this point in time.

[skinsfaninok]

" As far as being a top 10 QB, I could probably name 15 that I would rather in a playoff game at this point in time.[/quote] "

Name those 15 my man because I say he is a top 7 QB in the league.

1.Brady
2. Manning
3. Brees
4. Rivers
5. Mcnabb
6. BIG BEN
7. ROMO
8. WARNER
9. E.MANNING
10. CUTLER

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

" As far as being a top 10 QB, I could probably name 15 that I would rather in a playoff game at this point in time.

"

Name those 15 my man because I say he is a top 7 QB in the league.

1.Brady
2. Manning
3. Brees
4. Rivers
5. Mcnabb
6. BIG BEN
7. ROMO
8. WARNER
9. E.MANNING
10. CUTLER[/quote]

You are letting regular season stats skew your ratings. I am not talking about a fantasy league, I am talking about a playoff game. Read what you are responding to.

In no particular order...

Brady
P Manning
E Manning
Big Ben
K Warner
J Delhomme
D McNabb
B Favre
P Rivers
C Pennington
J Garcia
Carson Palmer
M Hasselbeck
David Garrard
Drew Brees
Kerry Collins
Joe Flacco

Every one of these guys have proved that they won't throw up all over themselves every time it is a game that counts. All Romo has done is proven that he will find ways to lose. He would probably have a few wins by now if he had just managed a couple of games or held on to a field goal snap.

[roth74va]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

In no particular order...

Brady
P Manning
E Manning
Big Ben
K Warner
J Delhomme
D McNabb
B Favre
P Rivers
C Pennington
J Garcia
Carson Palmer
M Hasselbeck
David Garrard
Drew Brees
Kerry Collins
Joe Flacco

Brady for sure
P Manning for sure
E Manning maybe
Big Ben yes
K Warner yes
J Delhomme maybe
D McNabb yes
B Favre NO.....older version of Romo
P Rivers yes
C Pennington NO.....choker
J Garcia hmmm...maybe
Carson Palmer maybe
M Hasselbeck maybe
David Garrard NO......your reaching now
Drew Brees for sure
Kerry Collins hmmm...maybe
Joe Flacco ROFL...NO...maybe in a year or two

And we are only talking about ONE game, otherwise Romo would have to move higher. I hate Dallas as much as anyone, and I still say Romo is overrated. But when you make the list, he has to make the top 15. Id put him somewhere around 10, but talking heads like to put him up there with Brady/Manning. This whole list might look alot different following the 2009-10 season.

BTW....Aaron Rodgers, Matt Ryan, Matt Cassel, Jay Cutler.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

"




In no particular order...

Brady
P Manning
E Manning
Big Ben
K Warner
J Delhomme
D McNabb
B Favre
P Rivers
C Pennington
J Garcia
Carson Palmer
M Hasselbeck
David Garrard
Drew Brees
Kerry Collins
Joe Flacco

Every one of these guys have proved that they won't throw up all over themselves every time it is a game that counts. All Romo has done is proven that he will find ways to lose. He would probably have a few wins by now if he had just managed a couple of games or held on to a field goal snap.

lol you are crazy dude that's just hating on romo.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

lol you are crazy dude that's just hating on romo.

Ok. I am just hating... So why does he have more muffed snaps for playoff losses than playoff wins? Why did he throw an INT to lose to the Giants with home field advantage? Why did he piss himself against the Eagles last year? Why is he absolutely pathetic in December when wins are most important?

Maybe you need to quit buying the hype and realize that he is eye candy. You cannot objectively look past his great fantasy stats (which will go down this year btw because Owens is gone) and admit that he is a choker.

Maybe you want to back a choker, however I will give accolades to those who overachieve when it counts instead of embarrassing one of the most talented teams year in and year out.

How about this, since you view this proven choker, for whatever reason, as a top 7 QB give your analysis of how he fits that criteria?