The redskins performance tonight will be considered a failure if....

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Can't argue w/ the freakshow of talent that is Brady/Moss. What killed me is how Hall didn't get beat he just couldn't regain position to defend the pass. Say he picks the inside on that play you're talking an INT. The 2nd Moss TD was all on Laron. He continues to disappoint IMO. I expected a breakout season from the kid but so far he's still a step or two late on many of the plays that count the most. I have a sneaking suspicion there's a lack of intensity in Landry keeping him from greatness.

Come on. Not sure if it was a mental mistake by one of the corners, but Moss ran inside and Laron was left all alone to cover him one on one. Name a safety in the league right now who can handle Randy Moss in man coverage. Better yet name a corner who can hanlde him one on one. Dude is other-worldly.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Come on. Not sure if it was a mental mistake by one of the corners, but Moss ran inside and Laron was left all alone to cover him one on one. Name a safety in the league right now who can handle Randy Moss in man coverage. Better yet name a corner who can hanlde him one on one. Dude is other-worldly.

Laron probably has the speed to match Moss, but he was a step or two behind cuz he didn't pick up on the go route.

I can't argue w/ Moss' talent level or the fact that very few guys can cover him, just saying on that particular play the TD wasn't inevitable by any means. Moss never got jammed at the line (nothing to do w/ Laron) and then our FS didn't pick-up the route.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Tonight was not a failure but there are some major concerns.

1) The oline already looks questionable. While big sacks weren't allowed there were several big hits on Jason. The line needs to get much better all around period.

2) Overall very little pressure on the QB. This worries me in the big picture sense. How w/ phat Al and Rak in there can we not get pressure on the QB? Something tells me Blache (edit) isn't scheming in a way that maximizes our talent on D.

3) Penalties. Why is this the same story year after year. Just tons of stupid penalties. We look ill-prepared and basically sloppy off and on through the game.

On the positive side JC and the air attack looks to be coming together a bit.

I agree, especially with #2 and #3. I was disappointed by the inconsistency of the pass rush. And we had way too many penalties and some of them were really foolish.

[MTK]

Landry got fooled on the pump fake, he took a little hesitation step and that allowed Moss to blow by.

Shit happens when you're dealing with a QB and WR on top of their game.

[roth74va]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Landry got fooled on the pump fake, he took a little hesitation step and that allowed Moss to blow by.

Hall missed jamming him on the line as well, could have changed the whole play.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Landry got fooled on the pump fake, he took a little hesitation step and that allowed Moss to blow by.

Shit happens when you're dealing with a QB and WR on top of their game.

Both of Moss' TD's were sight adjustments that I don't think any other passing tandem in the league could have made. The first one was a more subtle "hey, I'm taking this inside", and the second was an in route that turned into a go when the Redskins didn't have Landry deep and Brady's first two reads were covered. The pass rush does have to get to him on that play.

The Maroney receptions were just holes in the scheme though. It's 2009, and we can't leave running backs uncovered, or matched up against lineman anymore.

[Zerohero]

Kelly was looking good, nice to see

[GTripp0012]

Yeah, the success of the defensive scheme requires Landry to make all the downfield plays. I don't think he's around the ball quite well enough for the scheme to be successful yet. When he does get there, Landry has been great, but he's just not enough of a factor yet. Landry needs to be everywhere, not just between the hashes.

[MTK]

Sean Taylor was still hitting his peak when he passed, so I think it's a bit premature to be too down on LL. This is year 3 for him, let's give him this season and we'll see where he's at.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Sean Taylor was still hitting his peak when he passed, so I think it's a bit premature to be too down on LL. This is year 3 for him, let's give him this season and we'll see where he's at.

Yeah. As it turned out, 1) Ryan Clark was actually a really great player, not just a scheme fit, and 2) the third year ended up not being all that pivotal for ST. He didn't improve from the second to third year, but in his fourth season, vaulted to the top of the league at his position.

Hopefully, Landry can develop faster than Sean did, but I don't think we can write him off as a bust if he doesn't.