Defense = Disappointment

redskinem · 09-14-2009, 02:38 AM

I think the D did a good job considering the offence couldn't move the ball. They only gave up one touchdown, the offence gave up the other. Campbell sustain drives give the D rest and I think we could go all the way baby.

bedlamVR · 09-14-2009, 04:15 AM

The big issue I have with the defense was that 4th quarter drive that seemed to go on for ever . The Giants came away with 3 points but took off 7 minutes off the clock .

Poor tackling in the secondary will have to be addressed, they need to play closer on third down . Manningham should have been stopped by Smoot but he missed, Carter was too slow to the edge and Hall was flat out embarressed .

Horton was too aggressive he took himself out of too many plays, Orakopo was a none factor . One comedy moment was on one play where we got penetration and two or three Skins were in the backfield quickly and everyone seemed shocked and paused long enough for Eli to take off and Landry was looking for revenge everytime he was in 30 yards of Barber ...

All that said though the D did have its high points . It not allow a 100 yard receiver ...held the best rushing attack in the NFL in 2008 to 103 yards total . Barber had an average of 2.9 yards per carry and fletcher played out of his socks today ... but that is all going to be overlooked ...

Gtothearry · 09-14-2009, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by bedlamVR

Landry was looking for revenge everytime he was in 30 yards of Barber ...

All that said though the D did have its high points . It not allow a 100 yard receiver ...held the best rushing attack in the NFL in 2008 to 103 yards total . Barber had an average of 2.9 yards per carry and fletcher played out of his socks today ... but that is all going to be overlooked ...

Tiki I assume?

budw38 · 09-14-2009, 07:50 AM

1 ) Our offense did not score a TD until the game was ... over . 2 ) our Defense could not get off the field against what was an average offense at the end of 08 after Burress.

Hog1 · 09-14-2009, 08:14 AM

If I were Blache, I think I would start FINING anyone who tries to "chip" instead of a REAL tackle that actually puts the ball carrier on the ground...........Killing us

MTK · 09-14-2009, 08:19 AM

D didn't play great and they obviously were on the field too long. Can't say they were a total disappointment though. The Giants have probably the best OL in the league and Manning is craftier than people give him credit for.

TheMalcolmConnection · 09-14-2009, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

D didn't play great and they obviously were on the field too long. Can't say they were a total disappointment though. The Giants have probably the best OL in the league and Manning is craftier than people give him credit for.

Crafty is a good way to describe him. He's nowhere near the elite QB that some people claim he is, but he makes an efficient play when he needs to.

Zorny · 09-14-2009, 08:19 AM

I didn't expect the Skins to win, but I did expect them to play disciplined, mistake free football with some attitude. Were my expectations too high?

cdskins26 · 09-14-2009, 09:26 AM

I wouldnt say that they were that bad. Last I checked most teams score 10-14 points in 2 red-zone trips, not 3. They could have started out 14 nothing then got the other 14 points and been up 31-7 at the half. Chris Horton was playing way to far up on a lot of plays, but the rest of the defensive backs were fine.

firstdown · 09-14-2009, 09:58 AM

I guess I could nit pick a few things but the biggest thing that stands out was allowing the Giants to have that long drive in the 4th. Still the D held them to only 16 points and stuffed them in the red zone twice. This loss is on the O.

Green1 · 09-14-2009, 10:18 AM

The DBs are playing to far off the WRs. D. Hall is getting roasted almost ever play. Should have kept springs. D-Line has to get more pressure, Orakpo needs to be @ DE not linebacker

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 09-14-2009, 10:36 AM

The defense did an okay job against a very good offense. However, with the additions of Haynesworth and Orakpo, I expected more. The defense failed to consistently pressure Manning, had trouble containing off-tackle runs, and made sloppy mistakes (e.g., missing tackles). I hope it rebounds.

BTW, it's just week 1 and I expect this stat to improve dramatically, but the defense is currently the 19th ranked defense.

warriorzpath · 09-14-2009, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

The defense did an okay job against a very good offense. However, with the additions of Haynesworth and Orakpo, I expected more. The defense failed to consistently pressure Manning, had trouble containing off-tackle runs, and made sloppy mistakes (e.g., missing tackles). I hope it rebounds.

BTW, it's just week 1 and I expect this stat to improve dramatically, but the defense is currently the 19th ranked defense.

I think one of the major reasons why the redskins are not doing well against the off-tackle runs - Orakpo seems to be hesitant at the linebacker spot.

hail_2_da_skins · 09-14-2009, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by warriorzpath

I think one of the major reasons why the redskins are not doing well against the off-tackle runs - Orakpo seems to be hesitant at the linebacker spot.

The Redskins don't do well versus the off tackle run is because of Blanche's defense scheme. If you noticed, typically the Redskins linebackers and cornerbacks line up 10 yards behind the line of scrimmage. The defensive linemen have gap control, they don't flow to the ball on run plays, they cover their gap responsibilities. It's up to the linebackers and safeties to fill the creases. They are too far back, running into interference or just flat getting blocked and not getting their in time. Orakpo is out of position a lot. Carter is applying pressure from one end but Daniels is just not getting up the field. Why do you draft a pass rushing specialist and put him in a position to not help the team. This coaching staff is suspect.

SouperMeister · 09-14-2009, 11:13 AM

My biggest disappointments from the D:

1. Orakpo was almost never mentioned - he needs to be rushing the QB far more than he did yesterday. Dropping him in coverage on obvious passing downs is a waste of his ability to pressure the QB.

2. Hall looked lost at times in coverage. Our DB's give far too much cushion to opposing WRs. I miss Springs playing press coverage and getting physical with opposing WRs

3. Pass rush on 3rd down, or lack thereof. It didn't seem that our front four could get to Eli, even on 3rd and long. That said, the defensive stands on 3rd/4th and 1 plays was very impressive. Haynesworth beat a double team to make the stop on the 4th and 1 inside the 5. Hopefully the pass rush follows suit in the coming weeks.

09-14-2009, 02:38 AM	#1
redskinem Camp Scrub Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 6	Re: Defense = Disappointment I think the D did a good job considering the offence couldn't move the ball. They only gave up one touchdown, the offence gave up the other. Campbell sustain drives give the D rest and I think we could go all the way baby.

09-14-2009, 04:15 AM	#2
bedlamVR Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 389	Re: Defense = Disappointment The big issue I have with the defense was that 4th quarter drive that seemed to go on for ever . The Giants came away with 3 points but took off 7 minutes off the clock . Poor tackling in the secondary will have to be addressed, they need to play closer on third down . Manningham should have been stopped by Smoot but he missed, Carter was too slow to the edge and Hall was flat out embarressed . Horton was too aggressive he took himself out of too many plays, Orakopo was a none factor . One comedy moment was on one play where we got penetration and two or three Skins were in the backfield quickly and everyone seemed shocked and paused long enough for Eli to take off and Landry was looking for revenge everytime he was in 30 yards of Barber ... All that said though the D did have its high points . It not allow a 100 yard receiver ...held the best rushing attack in the NFL in 2008 to 103 yards total . Barber had an average of 2.9 yards per carry and fletcher played out of his socks today ... but that is all going to be overlooked ...

09-14-2009, 07:50 AM	#4
budw38 Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern,Va. Posts: 2,706	Re: Defense = Disappointment 1 ) Our offense did not score a TD until the game was ... over . 2 ) our Defense could not get off the field against what was an average offense at the end of 08 after Burress.

09-14-2009, 08:14 AM	#5
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: Defense = Disappointment If I were Blache, I think I would start FINING anyone who tries to "chip" instead of a REAL tackle that actually puts the ball carrier on the ground...........Killing us __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

09-14-2009, 08:19 AM	#6
MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,050	Re: Defense = Disappointment D didn't play great and they obviously were on the field too long. Can't say they were a total disappointment though. The Giants have probably the best OL in the league and Manning is craftier than people give him credit for. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

09-14-2009, 08:19 AM	#8
Zorny Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 72	Re: Defense = Disappointment I didn't expect the Skins to win, but I did expect them to play disciplined, mistake free football with some attitude. Were my expectations too high?

09-14-2009, 09:26 AM	#9
cdskins26 Special Teams Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 351	Re: Defense = Disappointment I wouldnt say that they were that bad. Last I checked most teams score 10-14 points in 2 red-zone trips, not 3. They could have started out 14 nothing then got the other 14 points and been up 31-7 at the half. Chris Horton was playing way to far up on a lot of plays, but the rest of the defensive backs were fine.

09-14-2009, 09:58 AM	#10
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 62 Posts: 15,817	Re: Defense = Disappointment I guess I could nit pick a few things but the biggest thing that stands out was allowing the Giants to have that long drive in the 4th. Still the D held them to only 16 points and stuffed them in the red zone twice. This loss is on the O.

09-14-2009, 10:18 AM	#11
Green1 Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 121	Re: Defense = Disappointment The DBs are playing to far off the WRs. D. Hall is getting roasted almost ever play. Should have kept springs. D-Line has to get more pressure, Orakpo needs to be @ DE not linebacker

09-14-2009, 10:36 AM	#12
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 47 Posts: 8,317	Re: Defense = Disappointment The defense did an okay job against a very good offense. However, with the additions of Haynesworth and Orakpo, I expected more. The defense failed to consistently pressure Manning, had trouble containing off-tackle runs, and made sloppy mistakes (e.g., missing tackles). I hope it rebounds. BTW, it's just week 1 and I expect this stat to improve dramatically, but the defense is currently the 19th ranked defense.

09-14-2009, 11:13 AM	#15
SouperMeister Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 61 Posts: 3,419	Re: Defense = Disappointment My biggest disappointments from the D: 1. Orakpo was almost never mentioned - he needs to be rushing the QB far more than he did yesterday. Dropping him in coverage on obvious passing downs is a waste of his ability to pressure the QB. 2. Hall looked lost at times in coverage. Our DB's give far too much cushion to opposing WRs. I miss Springs playing press coverage and getting physical with opposing WRs 3. Pass rush on 3rd down, or lack thereof. It didn't seem that our front four could get to Eli, even on 3rd and long. That said, the defensive stands on 3rd/4th and 1 plays was very impressive. Haynesworth beat a double team to make the stop on the 4th and 1 inside the 5. Hopefully the pass rush follows suit in the coming weeks.

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