Snyder's "apology"

Wildcat · 11-03-2009, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mlmdub130

ds is the reason for both of those problems since he is the one who puts all the peices in place

No that's VC, snyder just wants to win man, he will finally realize VC is trash

mlmdub130 · 11-03-2009, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat

No that's VC, snyder just wants to win man, he will finally realize VC is trash

again snyder put him there so it's on snyder again snyder doesn't know what he is doing he thinks it's fantasy get the best players on paper and you'll win, not the case in real life

GusFrerotte · 11-03-2009, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat

No that's VC, snyder just wants to win man, he will finally realize VC is trash

How do you know Snyder wants to win? Just because he pays out money to big FA names? Guy is smart, he has maximized his profit with a losing product year in year out in a NFL market that is rather small anymore. He could maximze jersey, sweatshirt, and cap sales, etc, with a SB run, but that is it. With a 5 year waiting period for season tickets they guy is already at maximum capacity with regards to filling the stadium. Have the Skins had a game blacked out yet due to poor attendance like the Lions always do? Snyder knows his "market" rather well. Keep em hooked with new coaches, schemes, hot FA signings and they will come and buy crap. Thing is you are in DC, the place where all the tax loot comes in to feed ungodly large bureacracies along with lobbyists, etc. My point is Detroiters and folks in SE Michigan and the rest of the rust belt do not have the time or money to waste on overpriced circuses in the form of crappy football. Snyder chose his market well. It is small, yet loaded with dough. Couple that with the fact that we are a bread and circuses society anymore and you have a no lose situation for Snyder unless Skins fans show some balls and quit caring.

GusFrerotte · 11-03-2009, 10:40 PM

Only way Snyder is going to change is through hurting him where it counts, the pocketbook. The Fords finally got rid of Millen when they couldn't even sell out their new 60,000 seat stadium because of the crappy product they were putting on the field and it was an embarrassment to them. Snyder's "apology" was him trying to get the fans to think he gives a shit. To be honest I am not so sure he really does. The present predicament the team is in just fits into this "drama" he has created to keep things interesting and stirred up.

The Goat · 11-03-2009, 10:47 PM

I feel dumber for having read Snyder's comments. He thinks everyone in the organization is working real hard this year? I guess he just admitted to being one of the worst teams in league history, something on par w/ last year's Lions, because what we've seen from the FO on down to the players has resulted in 2-5 against winless opponents, outside the Iggles.

skinsfan69 · 11-03-2009, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

He doesn't owe any apology. I don't need to hear from him, I don't care if he never speaks another word as long as he is owner. Talk means nothing, all he has to do is take action. He could tell us to go fuck ourselves for all I care, just take action to make the team better. As long as he does that, that's the only "apology" I need

exactly. at this point talk is cheap. do what randy lerner is going to do and go out and get a highly qualified football man. i'm sure floyd reece will take your call.

SmootSmack · 11-03-2009, 11:04 PM

Fans are funny. Spend all season complaining that Snyder hasn't spoken...and when he does, it's not enough. Seriously, who cares what he says

T.A.P.O.A.F.O.R. · 11-04-2009, 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

exactly. at this point talk is cheap. do what randy lerner is going to do and go out and get a highly qualified football man.

100% agreed.

Luxorreb · 11-04-2009, 04:51 AM

If he makes preseason tix free again, I'll accept his apology. I miss Jack Kent Cooke.

SkinFanatic · 11-04-2009, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

Its funny how many people want DS to say he failed more then anything else. Why? I think the product on the field spells a pretty loud FAILED all by it self. Then they wany Vinny fired in the middle of the season. Why? So we start winning and make the playoffs? It just does not make any sense to start throwing people under the bus im the middle of the season. Lets finish out the year and then start cleaning house. The only way I'd say fire VC right now would be because you have a new GM that can come in and start to look things over.

I see no reason NOT to fire Vinny now. And the fact that it hasnt been done already is a little disconcerting to me. He brings nothing to the table for the rest of the season IMO. It makes perfect sense to bring in a qualified GM now and let them get a jump on the competition for an uncapped season next year. The only reason I can think of is that no qualified guys will sign mid-season because they want to see what other opportunities come up. We already have Cleveland as competion and they've one-upped us by firing their GM. Keeping Vinny here just means that he'll be making any decisions regarding injury-related signings for the rest of the season. My mother could do a better job. Give a monkey a dart board and get him the hell out of here.

SkinFanatic · 11-04-2009, 08:19 AM

I was saying in one of the other threads here that I expected he'd break his media silence soon. But this "appology" is far short of what I expected. The fact that he really said nothing but "we're sorry" makes me think that he hasn't made any decisions on what to do yet. That is disturbing. I'm sure everyone is under tremendous pressure at Redskins Park right now. But DS needs to take more of the blame personally and needs to start making tough and drastic decisions now. We're not in the middle of a "disappointing season", we're in the middle of a disaster.

ashvirtually · 11-04-2009, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

Its funny how many people want DS to say he failed more then anything else. Why? I think the product on the field spells a pretty loud FAILED all by it self. Then they wany Vinny fired in the middle of the season. Why? So we start winning and make the playoffs? It just does not make any sense to start throwing people under the bus im the middle of the season. Lets finish out the year and then start cleaning house. The only way I'd say fire VC right now would be because you have a new GM that can come in and start to look things over.

Uh huh, whatever, tell that to Jim Zorn.

This is a freak show that hasn't made sense since Gibbs 2.0 ended, the middle of THIS season is just putting it all on display.

FWIW I don't give a shit about what Snyder says at this pont.

CrustyRedskin · 11-04-2009, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Luxorreb

If he makes preseason tix free again, I'll accept his apology. I miss Jack Kent Cooke.

yep, i miss a lot of things.

Ruhskins · 11-04-2009, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ashvirtually

Uh huh, whatever, tell that to Jim Zorn.

This is a freak show that hasn't made sense since Gibbs 2.0 ended, the middle of THIS season is just putting it all on display.

FWIW I don't give a shit about what Snyder says at this pont.

Actually Gibbs 2.0 ending so suddenly partly contributed to this mess. Not to mention the multiple picks we lost through trades during this time.

That being said, I really don't care much for his apology but hey at least he's saying something. And I'm ok with things being cleaned out at the end of the season.

SouperMeister · 11-04-2009, 09:54 AM

I don't need an apology. An admission that the FO philosophy has been the wrong way to create a consistent winner would be much better, but I won't hold my breath waiting for that.

More importantly, the firing of Cerrato followed by the hiring of a legitimate GM with final say on personnel matters, with a focus on building quality, inexpensive depth through the draft would be much more substantive. I keep going back to two teams - New England and Philly. Both stockpile draft picks and have a deep pool of capable talent in every unit. They typically make opportunistic FA signings of proven vets, without throwing their future cap out of whack.

11-03-2009, 10:40 PM	#64
GusFrerotte Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Detroit area Posts: 4,153	Re: Snyder's "apology" Only way Snyder is going to change is through hurting him where it counts, the pocketbook. The Fords finally got rid of Millen when they couldn't even sell out their new 60,000 seat stadium because of the crappy product they were putting on the field and it was an embarrassment to them. Snyder's "apology" was him trying to get the fans to think he gives a shit. To be honest I am not so sure he really does. The present predicament the team is in just fits into this "drama" he has created to keep things interesting and stirred up.

11-03-2009, 10:47 PM	#65
The Goat Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,662	Re: Snyder's "apology" I feel dumber for having read Snyder's comments. He thinks everyone in the organization is working real hard this year? I guess he just admitted to being one of the worst teams in league history, something on par w/ last year's Lions, because what we've seen from the FO on down to the players has resulted in 2-5 against winless opponents, outside the Iggles. __________________ 24-34

11-03-2009, 11:04 PM	#67
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Snyder's "apology" Fans are funny. Spend all season complaining that Snyder hasn't spoken...and when he does, it's not enough. Seriously, who cares what he says __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

11-04-2009, 04:51 AM	#69
Luxorreb ^21^ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, Virginia Age: 52 Posts: 1,630	Re: Snyder's "apology" If he makes preseason tix free again, I'll accept his apology. I miss Jack Kent Cooke. __________________ ^21^

11-04-2009, 08:19 AM	#71
SkinFanatic Camp Scrub Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Stafford, VA Age: 65 Posts: 49	Re: Snyder's "apology" I was saying in one of the other threads here that I expected he'd break his media silence soon. But this "appology" is far short of what I expected. The fact that he really said nothing but "we're sorry" makes me think that he hasn't made any decisions on what to do yet. That is disturbing. I'm sure everyone is under tremendous pressure at Redskins Park right now. But DS needs to take more of the blame personally and needs to start making tough and drastic decisions now. We're not in the middle of a "disappointing season", we're in the middle of a disaster. __________________ GM First

11-04-2009, 09:54 AM	#75
SouperMeister Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 60 Posts: 3,419	Re: Snyder's "apology" I don't need an apology. An admission that the FO philosophy has been the wrong way to create a consistent winner would be much better, but I won't hold my breath waiting for that. More importantly, the firing of Cerrato followed by the hiring of a legitimate GM with final say on personnel matters, with a focus on building quality, inexpensive depth through the draft would be much more substantive. I keep going back to two teams - New England and Philly. Both stockpile draft picks and have a deep pool of capable talent in every unit. They typically make opportunistic FA signings of proven vets, without throwing their future cap out of whack.

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