Climategate

[dmek25]

im not sure what i believe. but i know that all of the years of dumping all this crap into the environment will catch up to us, sooner or later. that's why when i hear drill baby drill, i cringe. funny how that was a republican catch phrase during the election, but not one whisper of it now( from anyone)

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by dmek25

im not sure what i believe. but i know that all of the years of dumping all this crap into the environment will catch up to us, sooner or later. that's why when i hear drill baby drill, i cringe. funny how that was a republican catch phrase during the election, but not one whisper of it now( from anyone)

Well when the Dems have control how could the Rep. get more drilling passed. I know its not dead here in Va. and will probably become a bigger topic when our new Governor takes office. Well the fact is we need oil and why not use what we have here while we are coming up with ways to get away from our use of oil.

[Trample the Elderly]

I wonder what a polar bear tastes like? I'd bet it's awesome with Sweet Baby Rays!

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

I wonder what a polar bear tastes like? I'd bet it's awesome with Sweet Baby Rays!

How great would it be to have one of these guys:

Polar Bear Rugs - Polar Bear Rug for sale


Alright back to what i said before. If i win the lottery, im going to sport a Prius, but im gonna get a polor bear skin rug, and a little baby polor bear skin rug as my bathroom floor mat. Elegance meets green.

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by dmek25

im not sure what i believe. but i know that all of the years of dumping all this crap into the environment will catch up to us, sooner or later. that's why when i hear drill baby drill, i cringe. funny how that was a republican catch phrase during the election, but not one whisper of it now( from anyone)

atleast they would have been true to their word, unlike some people cough..obama, cough...bring troops home

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

atleast they would have been true to their word, unlike some people cough..obama, cough...bring troops home

To be fair Obama said he would start pulling out of Iraq and put more resources in Afganistan which is pretty much what he is doing. He did wait 3 months to provide some of what they asked for while guys are dying at an increasing rate but he has done what he said.

[mlmpetert]

This week at a speech at the Copenhagen climate talks, Gore said crumbling ice sheets, disappearing glaciers and the shrinking Arctic ice cap were feeding global warming and fuelling rising sea levels.

He cited new research from climatologist Dr Wieslaw Maslowski that showed the Arctic ice cap may have shrunk to record low-levels last year.

'Some of the models suggest to Dr. Maslowski that there is a 75 per cent chance that the entire polar ice cap during some summer months could be completely ice free within five to seven years,' Gore said.

But the American scientist rejected the claim.

'It’s unclear to me how this figure was arrived at,' Dr Maslowski said. 'I would never try to estimate likelihood at anything as exact as this.'
Dr Maslowki, who works at the U.S. Naval Postgraduate School in California, said that his latest results gave a six-year projection for the melting of 80 per cent of the ice, but said he expected some ice to remain beyond 2020.
'
I was very explicit that we were talking about near-ice-free conditions and not completely ice-free conditions in the northern ocean,' he said.

'I would never try to estimate likelihood at anything as exact as this. It’s unclear to me how this figure was arrived at, based on the information I provided to Al Gore’s office.'

Mr Gore’s office later admitted that the figure of 75 per cent had been used by Dr Maslowksi as a 'ballpark figure' several years ago during a private conversation.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1236090/Inconvenient-truth-Al-Gore-hes-caught-exaggerating-threat-global-warming--again.html#ixzz0ZmEcVEWU

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by dmek25

im not sure what i believe. but i know that all of the years of dumping all this crap into the environment will catch up to us, sooner or later. that's why when i hear drill baby drill, i cringe. funny how that was a republican catch phrase during the election, but not one whisper of it now( from anyone)

Not so fast Dmek! I've been advocating drilling off of VA for awhile now. They've also said (VA Gov) they're going to look into high-speed rail too. They must be listening to me.

I've got a question. Why are there so many Pennsylvanians living in VA? This isn't a joke. Does PA suck that bad?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

Not so fast Dmek! I've been advocating drilling off of VA for awhile now. They've also said (VA Gov) they're going to look into high-speed rail too. They must be listening to me.

I've got a question. Why are there so many Pennsylvanians living in VA? This isn't a joke. Does PA suck that bad?

In Tidewater Va I see more people from NJ and NY moving into our area to get away from the high cost of living and high taxes.

[mlmpetert]

I just realized that I have already used several foreign news articles. Why is the American media largely not reporting this stuff.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

I just realized that I have already used several foreign news articles. Why is the American media largely not reporting this stuff.

Daily Mail is a tabloid newspaper, one would hope our media doesn't follow their lead. BTW "Climategate" isn't as big of a deal as you think it is and there isn't much mischief going on. They're merely disregarding usage of tree rings to ascertain temperature measurements. I would have done the same. Why use a method that tells something different from temperature you've recorded with a thermometer? I would move alone if I were one of you people.

The divergence problem is the disagreement between the temperatures measured by the thermometers (instrumental temperatures) on one side and the temperatures reconstructed from the widths of tree rings on the other side, in the northern forests.

While the thermometer records indicate a substantial warming trend, many tree rings do not display a corresponding change in their width. A temperature trend extracted from tree rings alone would not show any substantial warming. The temperature graphs calculated in these two ways thus "diverge" from one another since the 1950s, which is the origin of the term.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by saden1

Daily Mail is a tabloid newspaper, one would hope our media doesn't follow their lead. BTW "Climategate" isn't as big of a deal as you think it is and there isn't much mischief going on. They're merely disregarding usage of tree rings to ascertain temperature measurements. I would have done the same. Why use a method that tells something different from temperature you've recorded with a thermometer? I would move alone if I were one of you people.

It's really interesting how some think "climategate" debunks all of the science, all of the research, and indisputable data behind climate change. I can certainly understand people having issues with Al Gore on some level. But this isn't some wild theory spun out of thin air by Al Gore alone for his own personal gain - although he has profited handsomely from the ongoing debate. I think because Al Gore is a politician, a liberal politician I might add, an element of politics has been injected into the discussion that has been divisive.

I've yet to hear anyone step forward who has actually read all the emails, but what I can gather is that these scientists were, at a minimum, guilty of trying to keep some of the science from becoming politicized when, in fact, their perceived manipulating of data has done just that.

In the end though I don't think this controversy will have any long term traction to reverse the consensus building around the issue or the legislation being pushed through Congress.

[MTK]

Maybe if Tiger Woods banged a polar bear people would care about this story.

[dmek25]

im talking about people who matter. you know, the ones who make policy? not someone that is as irrelevant as you

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by dmek25

im talking about people who matter. you know, the ones who make policy? not someone that is as irrelevant as you

Seriously, why do all of you move down here? I mean you guys have been voting in liberals for years, if not decades. It should be a effing paradise up there, right? Why do you come down here with all of the backward conservatives and whack job libertarians? Are you trying to convert us to trifling? I can't go a day without seeing a PA license plate on the road. There are also VA licensed cars that are plastered with Steelers and Iggles BS too. That's a sure give away. Why move away from your progressive utopia if it so great?