Defensive Coordinator for 2010

BigHairedAristocrat · 01-07-2010, 06:08 PM

We need new coaches who don't have (misplaced) loyalties to any of the players. its the only way to ensure the best players start.

CRedskinsRule · 01-07-2010, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CrustyRedskin

GRAY as Defensive Cordinator!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I totaly disagree with that one!!!! Unloyal POS is what he is. Just in MHO. Keep the Rats off the New SHip!!!

question, where should any coach's loyalty lay? to the head coach or to the team. If a HC told a position coach to do something particularly bad for the team, should that position coach do it to stay loyal to the HC, or look at the team's best interest. I don't know Jerry Grays motivations, but by the time he was interviewed it was pretty clear that JZ was not staying around, also clear that the best thing for the team was to be prepared to name the next coach asap. I don't get the unloyal pos talk, and I think it's sad that people are labeling him anything other than a team guy.

diehardskin2982 · 01-07-2010, 06:36 PM

^ I agree, why would be loyal to a guy you only met 2 years ago.

CrustyRedskin · 01-07-2010, 06:41 PM

I just get a bad vibe from him (interviews, news clips tec.). Its just my opinion. I've been in the coaching buisness for 20 years and he reminds me of some bad run-ins I had with poor coaches. And I have a hard time seeing where Jim Zorn told him to do something that wasnt in the teams interest.

Player_HTTR · 01-07-2010, 06:45 PM

I don't care if Gray is loyal or not. Our Secondary can't tackle, cover, or catch. Cover may be a scheme issue but tackling and holding onto the ball when it hits your hands is a coaching issue when it has gone on as long as it has.

SFREDSKIN · 01-07-2010, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Player_HTTR

I don't care if Gray is loyal or not. Our Secondary can't tackle, cover, or catch. Cover may be a scheme issue but tackling and holding onto the ball when it hits your hands is a coaching issue when it has gone on as long as it has.

Maybe he's following orders from Blache as to what scheme to run or player position?

firstdown · 01-07-2010, 06:55 PM

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I think Mike Zimmer will happen (the Bengals won't pay him what Danny will), and I wouldn't mind him bringing in his son Adam from the Saints to coach LBs work as maybe asst DC.

I'm also good with Zimmer but I don't want any more sons of coaches on our sidelines. I'm not thrilled with MS having his son as a coach because what happens if he is a problem what does Mike do then? Its just a tough situation if the son falls down on the job.

Player_HTTR · 01-07-2010, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Maybe he's following orders from Blache as to what scheme to run or player position?

I really think part of it was scheme, our Zones had more holes than Spongebob, but the other two are inexcusable.

SFREDSKIN · 01-07-2010, 06:58 PM

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I really think part of it was scheme, our Zones had more holes than Spongebob, but the other two are inexcusable.

We know Smoot, Landry and Hall are not exactly the worlds best tacklers and should work on it.

CRedskinsRule · 01-07-2010, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CrustyRedskin

I just get a bad vibe from him (interviews, news clips tec.). Its just my opinion. I've been in the coaching buisness for 20 years and he reminds me of some bad run-ins I had with poor coaches. And I have a hard time seeing where Jim Zorn told him to do something that wasnt in the teams interest.

I was not saying that Zorn had. Just trying to make the point that the loyalty lies to the team, not to the head coach.

dmek25 · 01-07-2010, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Zimmer seems to be the favorite with Gray as a possible fall back.

JLC is reporting Jim Haslet as a possibility too...

Shanahan's defense could be run by Zimmer or Haslett | ProFootballTalk.com

i would really like this. his defenses were always very aggressive. im not to high on Zimmer

mlmdub130 · 01-07-2010, 07:55 PM

on news 4 they just said a few coaches might stay around and they mentioned gray as d cordinator. it made me cry on the inside a little, i really hope we get zimmer

WaldSkins · 01-07-2010, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mlmdub130

on news 4 they just said a few coaches might stay around and they mentioned gray as d cordinator. it made me cry on the inside a little, i really hope we get zimmer

How does a Gray defense play?

53Fan · 01-07-2010, 09:06 PM

Doc Walker was on WPL today and endorsed Gray. He liked the idea of there being less of a transition to a different defense with Gray in charge. Gray or Zimmer would be an improvement IMO.

SBXVII · 01-08-2010, 02:21 AM

#1. I must have missed some recent news that has eluded to the fact that Gray is unloyal. Are you guys refering to his interview and Zorn? I'll ask this..... if it is...... how do you guys know positively for sure that Gray didn't go to Zorn to run it by him and with Zorn knowing he was out the door, didn't give his approval to go to the interview?

Just because the media didn't talk about it, or it has never been mentioned does not mean it didn't happen.

#2. Why do people think he's a great candidate? I mean he has been on this team for 6yrs and has not made our CB position any better. The excuses keep piling up for him.... "Oh it was the scheme he had to work with" - If it was the Scheme why then do we want to keep him cause he's going to run the same crappy scheme. Why not change to a whole new phylosophy in regards to the 4-3 if thats what they want to stay with or change to another scheme.

#3. He does crappy interviews, sometimes rude when questions were asked.

Lets move on. Lets get a fresh start. Bring someone in that will not pick favorites or take sides. When you have cancer you have to cut it all out. Not leave a little in hopes it will work out. It won't.

01-07-2010, 06:08 PM	#61
BigHairedAristocrat Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 4,712	Re: Defensive Coordinator for 2010 We need new coaches who don't have (misplaced) loyalties to any of the players. its the only way to ensure the best players start. __________________ Dolphins get good press for saving drowning humans.But we only hear about the swimmers theyve pushed ashore.You know who we havent heard from: all the people theyve pushed out to sea.Dolphins dont know what theyre doing-they just like pushing things.

01-07-2010, 06:36 PM	#63
diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	Re: Defensive Coordinator for 2010 ^ I agree, why would be loyal to a guy you only met 2 years ago. __________________ That got ugly fast

01-07-2010, 06:41 PM	#64
CrustyRedskin Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: RatherbeinDC, TX Posts: 3,059	Re: Defensive Coordinator for 2010 I just get a bad vibe from him (interviews, news clips tec.). Its just my opinion. I've been in the coaching buisness for 20 years and he reminds me of some bad run-ins I had with poor coaches. And I have a hard time seeing where Jim Zorn told him to do something that wasnt in the teams interest.

01-07-2010, 06:45 PM	#65
Player_HTTR Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 328	Re: Defensive Coordinator for 2010 I don't care if Gray is loyal or not. Our Secondary can't tackle, cover, or catch. Cover may be a scheme issue but tackling and holding onto the ball when it hits your hands is a coaching issue when it has gone on as long as it has.

01-07-2010, 07:55 PM	#72
mlmdub130 Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Woodbridge, VA Age: 41 Posts: 3,238	Re: Defensive Coordinator for 2010 on news 4 they just said a few coaches might stay around and they mentioned gray as d cordinator. it made me cry on the inside a little, i really hope we get zimmer __________________ "I don't think anybody should have regrets, especially me, ... You don't regret what you do in your life. If you do it, you do it for a reason." ST21

01-07-2010, 09:06 PM	#74
53Fan Franchise Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C. Posts: 7,570	Re: Defensive Coordinator for 2010 Doc Walker was on WPL today and endorsed Gray. He liked the idea of there being less of a transition to a different defense with Gray in charge. Gray or Zimmer would be an improvement IMO. __________________ Defense wins championships. Bring it!

01-08-2010, 02:21 AM	#75
SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,766	Re: Defensive Coordinator for 2010 #1. I must have missed some recent news that has eluded to the fact that Gray is unloyal. Are you guys refering to his interview and Zorn? I'll ask this..... if it is...... how do you guys know positively for sure that Gray didn't go to Zorn to run it by him and with Zorn knowing he was out the door, didn't give his approval to go to the interview? Just because the media didn't talk about it, or it has never been mentioned does not mean it didn't happen. #2. Why do people think he's a great candidate? I mean he has been on this team for 6yrs and has not made our CB position any better. The excuses keep piling up for him.... "Oh it was the scheme he had to work with" - If it was the Scheme why then do we want to keep him cause he's going to run the same crappy scheme. Why not change to a whole new phylosophy in regards to the 4-3 if thats what they want to stay with or change to another scheme. #3. He does crappy interviews, sometimes rude when questions were asked. Lets move on. Lets get a fresh start. Bring someone in that will not pick favorites or take sides. When you have cancer you have to cut it all out. Not leave a little in hopes it will work out. It won't.

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