Redskins Send 5th Rounder to Rams for Carriker and a 5th (Swap 7ths)

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

This will make moving Andre Carter easier

Agreed. I do not think this in any way foreshadows moving Haynesworth. Carriker is no replacement for Al. We'd be downgrading massively if that's the plan.

[tootergray34]

yeah I was just about to say byebye andre carter. Hopefully he'll pan out for us. Not much risk for us in terms that we are only moving back in the 5th round. Chances are we will be able to snag who we wanted to with the higher pick anyways.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by NYCskinfan82

That would be a steal, how much is left on his contract, we've got to be sending AH to them after the draft. DON'T TRADE AH, DON'T TRADE AH DON'T TRADE AH.

Huh? What are they going to give us for AH? The Rams have nothing we want.

[GTripp0012]

I don't think I'd call this a genius move, but it's got plenty of room to be a value pickup.

We're giving up the value of a late 6th rounder, which isn't much at all. But again, Carriker's value isn't high, so this trade will be worth what we can make of it.

If we had given the Rams our 7th rounder, that would have been about the same type of value trade, but I think that 1) we certainly would have preferred to have 4 picks instead of 5 going into Thursday (one way or another, I think we'll add more than 4 players in this draft). And secondly, I think there's more that the Rams can do with a top 140 pick than with the 163rd pick and a relatively valueless 7th rounder.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Just made my front 7 prediction look a lot better

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

Did anyone out there seriously think that Shanahan was brought in here to "rebuild"?


Rebuilding doesn't exist in the NFL. That is a euphimism that teams like Buffalo and Tampa Bay use to say that they have given up and they are just going to collect TV revenue.

i thought this team was in shambles, i'm just surprised they think we have enough talent on our roster to make a few moves and be a contender. i mean i know zorn wasn't the greatest coach ever i just didn't realize the guy was a freaking moron, and maybe ol bug eyes got it right when he said we had a playoff roster. regaurdless the next few years should be really interesting. and did i menton we f-ing made out like bandits with this trade! we dropped what 25 picks to pick up a former first rounder with a cheap contract.

[franklinhimself]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

You are going to say a prayer that we deal our best player to Detroit?

What is Detroit going to give us that replaces Al? Don't say the second pick, we arent' getting that.

A 4th for JC? Not looking likely.

No, getting their 2nd overall pick doesn't seem possible. I agree.
I'm just not a big fan of Haynesworth as a teammate/player and his absence for these offseason workouts.

I'll be properly shut up if he plays lights out and our D-line is top 5 this year, but I'd rather have a few more higher rd picks to shore up the bigger need- O-line.


I meant that I hope some teams miss on positions of need they are targeting and are willing to trade for AH, Campbell after Thursday night so we can get a a few more picks- like a 2nd rd, 3rd rd, and 5th rd or something.

We'll see when it's all over on Saturday.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

i thought this team was in shambles, i'm just surprised they think we have enough talent on our roster to make a few moves and be a contender. i mean i know zorn wasn't the greatest coach ever i just didn't realize the guy was a freaking moron, and maybe ol bug eyes got it right when he said we had a playoff roster. regaurdless the next few years should be really interesting. and did i menton we f-ing made out like bandits with this trade! we dropped what 25 picks to pick up a former first rounder with a cheap contract.

This team was competitive in almost every game even with the most dysfunctional offensive system in the league and o-lineman off the trash heap.

I think this trade was a steal too. We didn't make trades like this with Vinny.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

i thought this team was in shambles, i'm just surprised they think we have enough talent on our roster to make a few moves and be a contender. i mean i know zorn wasn't the greatest coach ever i just didn't realize the guy was a freaking moron, and maybe ol bug eyes got it right when he said we had a playoff roster. regaurdless the next few years should be really interesting. and did i menton we f-ing made out like bandits with this trade! we dropped what 25 picks to pick up a former first rounder with a cheap contract.

I don't think the team was ever in shambles, I just think we had an overachieving offense with very little actual talent, and an underachieving defense with a plethora of talent it couldn't use/didn't understand.

With that said, our solutions on offense throughout this offseason have appeared to be some combination of the formula (Mike Shanahan's hubris + the 4th overall pick) = wins!! No research I've ever done suggests that is going to work, but both Shanahan's seem quite convinced that it will. Of course, I would expect nothing less.

[Lotus]

Carriker's 2009 shoulder injury

[GTripp0012]

My solution would have been (talent influx on offense + general competency on defense). Of course, I'll never find out if that would have actually worked, so I'm just going to assume it would have

[SmootSmack]

He misses the boat a lot, A LOT, but credit where credit is due. JLC was the first person (last month) to talk about Redskins interest in Carriker

[SFREDSKIN]

Carter and Rocky for a 3rd and 6th rounders?

[NYCskinfan82]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Carriker's 2009 shoulder injury

Thanks for clearing up the injury report.

[backrow]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Carter and Rocky for a 3rd and 6th rounders?

Do you have a link?