Steelers Actively Shopping Big Ben for a Top 10 Pick

[CultBrennan59]

What are the odds?

Ben roethlisberger tiger woods image by lennydpocketqb on Photobucket

[mredskins]

He is not going anywhere.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

King Street Grill. It is right off hungry neck Blvd. The new road they built recently that travels from the Georgetownn exit off I526 and goes to the IOP connector. I love Chuck Town as well, but we are headed back to the Northern Virginai area.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

King Street Grill. It is right off hungry neck Blvd. The new road they built recently that travels from the Georgetownn exit off I526 and goes to the IOP connector. I love Chuck Town as well, but we are headed back to the Northern Virginai area.

I've seen their ads, kind of a sports bar place if I remember correctly. Any news from their about Ben? has it affected biz?

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

I've seen their ads, kind of a sports bar place if I remember correctly. Any news from their about Ben? has it affected biz?

word is the bathrooms aren't seeing much traffic

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

I've seen their ads, kind of a sports bar place if I remember correctly. Any news from their about Ben? has it affected biz?

Can't say it has because it is not widely known that he is an owner. I only came across the info after the case in GA. Before that I ate thier a few times, and Ben being an owner is not advertised in the establishment.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

i don't think its just a ruse. if someone offered pittsburg a top 10 pick for rothlisberger, I think they would take it. I think what we're seeing here is a case where no one - not even the Steelers - want him around. he's just not worth the risk.

[Lotus]

Right now Ben is like Vick without the jail time, so no one can say, "At least he paid his debt..."

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Right now Ben is like Vick without the jail time, so no one can say, "At least he paid his debt..."

With rape and sexual assault there is no "debt" to pay off. In fact most rapist, including child molesters, get out way to early. Maybe, and I emphasize maybe, you can recover from sexual harassment, but if you are proven to be a rapist you should be phased out of society. Weather it be staying in jail or simply having no one wanting to talk to you.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

With rape and sexual assault there is no "debt" to pay off. In fact most rapist, including child molesters, get out way to early.

Agreed. That's a crime that can never fully heal for the victim. If is not a physical crime, it's a lifelong emotional/psychological scar. It's not about sex, it's about power and control over the victim. Sex addict education or rehab won't do any good.

Rapists and child molesters should be automatically castrated and/or put away forever. I wouldn't even care if they were put to death.

They've crossed a moral line in the same way a murderer does. Once you commit that crime, you can not be rehabilitated. It's easy to be a repeat offender and statistics back that up. It's a line that you've crossed that separates those who can live in society amongst other people and those who can't.

[Dirtbag59]

And just to be clear I don't think Lotus was suggesting that you could pay a debt to society. Rather he was anticipating the excuses you would hear from someone down the road thats would be interested in signing Ben after getting convicted.

@Buster -Glad to see someone that feels the same way I do about the crime in general.

[tootergray34]

hearing lots of rumors about big ben going to the cardinals

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by tootergray34

hearing lots of rumors about big ben going to the cardinals

But they have Matt Leinart!