Why Santana Moss gets a free pass...

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by ethat001

I care about steroids..

If we don't care about steroids, then:
1) We don't care about the law - they are illegal.
2) The game would be just as fake as wrestling.
3) We'd be cheering for cheaters.
4) We'd be encouraging thousands of youth to start using steroids & destroy their bodies.
5) All the records would be fake.
6) etc. etc.

Here's a reminder about steroid side effects.. And ask yourself if your son (or daughter) starts using steroids because all his favorite players do -- whether you still don't care about it...

Nice post.To put in a way others might understand ....they kill .

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Lol that's a bit over-dramatic

no,not really.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

The local injection of it used for specific injury treatment isn't really going to be a big enough dose to cause those type of issues. If you can spur growth and repair of tissue it beats having a procedure where they take cells, fibers, or tendons from other areas of your body.

Yes , you are right,to a point.You forgot to mention that this is with a Dr's perscription and care .Most of these guys aren't taking it for the reasons you mention,they are banned for good reason.

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

I understand your point and it is a legitimate point. But as Ben Roethlisburger is finding out the hard way (LOL!) you do not have to be convicted or have proof positive. It is the illegal or behavior that can get you in trouble. Plus, correct me if I am wrong, but there currently is no test for certain substances that are on the banned list. So....

2 totally different situations and circumstances.

Goodell cannot suspend anyone for violating the leagues substance abuse policy without physical evidence.

However, if he feels that this incident gives the NFL a "black-eye", then Goodell would have to find a way to classify this incident as a violation of the leagues "personal conduct policy".

That is what Big Ben was suspended for. And lest we forget, Ben did it twice in consecutive years BEFORE he was suspended.

Big difference between substance abuse and personal conduct policy.

[Monkeydad]

Still confusing HGH and Roids I see...

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Buster

Still confusing HGH and Roids I see...

...both are banned ,correct ?

[30gut]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

Why Santana Moss gets a free pass...

He gets a pass until there more proof.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Giantone

no,not really.

oh because you said so? your background on the subject being?

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Yes , you are right,to a point.You forgot to mention that this is with a Dr's perscription and care .Most of these guys aren't taking it for the reasons you mention,they are banned for good reason.

we're talking about this incident and loosely the treatment that Galea provided, where have you been?

[Whiskeybilt]

Originally Posted by Buster

Still confusing HGH and Roids I see...

People go right to thinking Barry Bonds when they hear PHDs and it's just not even close to the case.

The Romo article defending this doctor are pretty good.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Whiskeybilt

People go right to thinking Barry Bonds when they hear PHDs and it's just not even close to the case.

The Romo article defending this doctor are pretty good.

Dr. Bonds I presume

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

oh because you said so? your background on the subject being?

Same as yours.

see#61 and 62

[#56fanatic]

some of the stuff I hear is really disturbing. The guy took an illegal substance. Bottom line...thats it. No defense is necessary. He will and should be suspended, i dont care how many good memories he gave you. Which frankly, aren't too many for a supposed #1, but that is for another day. How anyone can try and justify it is crazy. He knew what was going on, he chose to take the risk of getting caught. Now that he was caught, for whatever the reason may have been, he just needs to come out and say "hey, this is what was going on, I made a mistake blah blah blah... this denial crap all these idiots are doing is just getting tiresome. They take all of us for fools if they actually think what they are saying is believable.

[MTK]

Yikes, sure is a lot of misinformation in this thread. I'm far from an expert but I'm not going to pretend to be either. The HGH issue isn't quite as clearcut as the steroid issue and it's something the league is going to have to address.

[Whiskeybilt]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Yikes, sure is a lot of misinformation in this thread. I'm far from an expert but I'm not going to pretend to be either. The HGH issue isn't quite as clearcut as the steroid issue and it's something the league is going to have to address.

HGH occurs naturally in our bodies, but we stop producing it at a certain age.

Roids are genetically engineered chemicals, designed to effect performance.

I see a huge difference and don't personally have a problem with a doctor like this finding ways to heel athletes. Not just to get them back on the field and play, but to be able to walk and get out of bed when they hit 50.

Giving a player HGH in small doses, in a controlled fashion, is not much difference than the hormones we put into our meat, that has every American bigger and faster and quicker to mature, than most other countries, IMO.