Report: Redskins are pursuing Vincent Jackson

[PHazard]

Vincent Jackson is a solid receiver but i think the asking price is gonna be too high. I think Shanahan wants to keep his 1st n 2nd round picks next year to build for the future. But with that you take the risk of drafting another Malcolm Kelly. At least Vincent Jackson is proven. Another scenerio ppl have failed to realize is a trade involving Laron Landry (I DO NOT SUPPORT THIS). But The Chargers just cut Keith Ellison (their starting SS) and Landry's name came up in trade rumors with the eagles earlier this season. Add that to the fact that he's had a bum toe and the coaching staff has been impressed with the starting combo of Moore & Doughty during OTAs. I'm only stating this cuz you guys wanted to know trade scenerios. IMO, Jackson is not worth Landry.

We could always try sending Haynesworth to Seattle or the Vikings, 4-3 teams, and have Seattle/Vikings give the Chargers picks and have us receive Jackson :-)

[Chico23231]

if San Diego wants 1st or 2nd rounder, Id say no f*ing way

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Id trade Kelly/Moss and our 2nd next year for Jackson and their 4th.

[Bill B]

If it involves trading a 1st or 2nd I say don't do it. While the additions of Jamal Brown and Trent Williams have been great I think next year we need to use the 1st or 2nd round pick on a guard so we can keep upgrading the offensive line and also get younger - not too mention Casey Rabach is getting old and will need to be replaced as well at some point. Another thing to consider with the Skins is while McNabb is great and hopefully he resigns for a longer term I think at some point we need to think about drafting another qb with a higher pick. Finally I would also be considering RB as our current starters are all on the older side - although Shanhan is a master at finding some rb gems in the later rounds.

[KLHJ2]

I'm on the fence on this one. I think he is good but not great, then again he is more proven than what we have here.

[Redskin Warrior]

I think the major question is how disgruntle Jackson is?.....And has SD patients ran out with him? If so he very well might be steal for us.

[MTK]

WRs are irrelevant? I wouldn't go that far.

The Steelers didn't exactly have scrubs in Hines Ward and Santonio Holmes.

The Saints have a great group of WRs.

The Patriots might have had some no-names but a guy like Troy Brown was very solid and underrated.

[Chico23231]

I wouldnt give Jackson top 5 WR money, I wouldnt consider him "elite." If we give up a 1st or 2nd and then sign him to crazy money...I would consider that the first possible major mistake of the Allen/Shanny era...

[diehardskin2982]

Why not TO and keep the draft picks to use on a legit young WR hand picked by shannynext year.

Also any news on bryant westbrook?

[GTripp0012]

Jackson is probably the one acquisition in the NFL that could take us from borderline playoff contender to borderline super bowl contender.

He's not young for his experience level, necessarily, but he's just a 5th year player who is 27 years old. That gives him 2 or 3 more years as an elite, top five, NFL wide receiver, which means he's worth a first round pick plus in compensation.

If the Redskins are going to acquire him, however, they'll need to get really creative, because we can't afford to give up our first and our second rounder to get this guy. Haynesworth probably isn't worth much value to San Diego, but other players on our roster very well might be.

I'd try to send over a 2012 first rounder, and a couple of players, perhaps Chris Horton and Santana Moss, or Carlos Rogers and Devin Thomas. That might get it done, if only because Jackson is in such heavy contract limbo, and could be a UFA next year if the CBA allows for it.

Word of caution is that AJ Smith might be the one NFL GM who is willing to let a valuable player sit out rather than overpay him. In the future, more GMs will play hardass with their players, but Smith, I think, is going to get run out of town for being a little ahead of his time.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Jackson is probably the one acquisition in the NFL that could take us from borderline playoff contender to borderline super bowl contender.

He's not young for his experience level, necessarily, but he's just a 5th year player who is 27 years old. That gives him 2 or 3 more years as an elite, top five, NFL wide receiver, which means he's worth a first round pick plus in compensation.

If the Redskins are going to acquire him, however, they'll need to get really creative, because we can't afford to give up our first and our second rounder to get this guy. Haynesworth probably isn't worth much value to San Diego, but other players on our roster very well might be.

I'd try to send over a 2012 first rounder, and a couple of players, perhaps Chris Horton and Santana Moss, or Carlos Rogers and Devin Thomas. That might get it done, if only because Jackson is in such heavy contract limbo, and could be a UFA next year if the CBA allows for it.

Word of caution is that AJ Smith might be the one NFL GM who is willing to let a valuable player sit out rather than overpay him. In the future, more GMs will play hardass with their players, but Smith, I think, is going to get run out of town for being a little ahead of his time.

I disagree that he's a top 5 WR (although physically I think he's probably a top 2 or 3 WR). He was 30th in the league in catches last year and has never topped the 70 catch mark. I think his best seasons are probably still in front of him though (depending on where he's playing). Brandon Marshall is a year younger and already has 3 100+ catch, 1100+ yard seasons in lesser offenses with lesser QBs than VJ. IMO Jackson's avg yards/catch still doesn't trump those numbers.

Plus there's the whole looming suspension thing.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I disagree that he's a top 5 WR (although physically I think he's probably a top 2 or 3 WR). He was 30th in the league in catches last year and has never topped the 70 catch mark. I think his best seasons are probably still in front of him though (depending on where he's playing). Brandon Marshall is a year younger and already has 3 100+ catch, 1100+ yard seasons in lesser offenses with lesser QBs than VJ.

Plus there's the whole looming suspension thing.

While catches can be a pretty good measure of which receivers are getting open, you're probably just seeing the effects of having to share the football with Antonio Gates in an offense that throws a high % of it's passes to the running backs behind the line of scrimmage. Jackson catches an obscene (>60%) amount of his passes for a guy who does most of his work beyond the 15 yard zone, and while I can't doubt that a lot of that is the function of superb accuracy on the part of his QB (something he can't take with him), I certainly can't think of 5 receivers I'd rather have on my team.

More to the point, I can't think of a younger receiver than Jackson who is proven enough to warrant a first round pick in a trade.

Hopefully the suspension drives down the price tag on Jackson. If it doesn't, the Chargers are bad at understanding the business side of the NFL.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

While catches can be a pretty good measure of which receivers are getting open, you're probably just seeing the effects of having to share the football with Antonio Gates in an offense that throws a high % of it's passes to the running backs behind the line of scrimmage. Jackson catches an obscene (>60%) amount of his passes for a guy who does most of his work beyond the 15 yard zone, and while I can't doubt that a lot of that is the function of superb accuracy on the part of his QB (something he can't take with him), I certainly can't think of 5 receivers I'd rather have on my team.

More to the point, I can't think of a younger receiver than Jackson who is proven enough to warrant a first round pick in a trade.

Hopefully the suspension drives down the price tag on Jackson. If it doesn't, the Chargers are bad at understanding the business side of the NFL.

Larry Fitzgerald? Brandon Marshall?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Larry Fitzgerald? Brandon Marshall?

/checks age on Fitzgerald.

There's one. They're both 27. Good find.

[cooleyforthescore]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Larry Fitzgerald? Brandon Marshall?

Marques Colston, DeSean Jackson, Sidney Rice?