Whose QB Should We Choose?

[MTK]

Gruden and Daly are good friends.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Gruden and Daly are good friends.

Originally Posted by GreekSkin

I'm pretty sure Gruden was the one who invited John Daly.

Well, in that case, nevermind.

[30gut]

I think each situation is different.

I wouldn't expect Bill Walsh to defer to Mike Shanahan or Sean Peyton to defer to his OC, or Mike McCarthy to his, or Chan Gailey to his, Mike Holmgren/Pat Shurmur to his, Norv Turner to his, etc.

You gotta earn your stripes to make that call.

[Dirtbag59]

Also I think I should note that my choice for a possible rookie QB is going to be 20/20 hindsight. In other words whoever they take on draft day I'll feel that they were the best choice. Weather it be Newton, Mallet, Locker, Dalton, Ponder, Kaepernick, Mallet, or Stanzi.

[Paintrain]

That's one of the thing that's frustrating about all of the "experts" who keep fitting QB to Mike's offense when it is Kyle's. Kyle is likely looking for a QB that more resembles Matt Schaub than John Elway. Remember, Kyle didn't want McNabb because he didn't fit 'his' system but fit Mike's. Dalton, Ponder and Mallett are more Kyle QB than Newton, Locker and Kaepernick.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by calia

This coming from "CultBrennan" -- what's Colt doing these days?

The Hartford Colonials will look to bolster a number of positions with their reserve unsigned list, most notably at quarterback, where COLT BRENNAN brings record-setting numbers from his days at the University of Hawaii. Brennan and Colonials Head Coach/General Manager Jerry Glanville were together at Hawaii, when Glanville was the team's Defensive Coordinator.

[SBXVII]

Your question invokes some more questions though....

1. Who's Offensive scheme are we using?
2. Which QB would be best for said scheme?

Personally to me it looked like we were using Kyle Shanahan's Offensive scheme last year. So having said that then it would only make sense if the team picked a QB that was best suited for that scheme. But it doesn't just end there....

Who is the OC (KS), who is the QB coach (Matt LaFluer). I mention this because they both have to be able to communicate with the QB picked and get a long with them. Which QB does not only KS think is best but who does Matt LaFluer believe he can work with best in getting the fundamentals across and absorbing the material?

I guess I'm reading too much into the question so I'll simply say Kyle Shanahan should get the nod. Plus I'm in favour of Dalton anyway for two reasons

1- I'd rather the team dropped back for more picks and took Dalton in the second round.
2- I honestly think Dalton is a better QB.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

The Hartford Colonials will look to bolster a number of positions with their reserve unsigned list, most notably at quarterback, where COLT BRENNAN brings record-setting numbers from his days at the University of Hawaii. Brennan and Colonials Head Coach/General Manager Jerry Glanville were together at Hawaii, when Glanville was the team's Defensive Coordinator.

I resign as a Redskins fan. Colonials all the way baby! Connecticut water changed into wine!

[Dirtbag59]

Hey look, it's JLC


JasonLaCanfora Jason La Canfora
Several GMs I've talked to believe Skins will move to 2 to make sure they get Gabbert. I think he'd likely be there at 10
5 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

JasonLaCanfora Jason La Canfora
Spoke Monday about the Redskins interest in trading up to No 2 to land a QB. @KaraHenderson, reporting from Denver today, echoed that and...
12 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Hey look, it's JLC


JasonLaCanfora Jason La Canfora
Several GMs I've talked to believe Skins will move to 2 to make sure they get Gabbert. I think he'd likely be there at 10
5 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

JasonLaCanfora Jason La Canfora
Spoke Monday about the Redskins interest in trading up to No 2 to land a QB. @KaraHenderson, reporting from Denver today, echoed that and...
12 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

Gabbert won't be there at #10 I gaurentee that. JLC's and idiot.

Personally I think the Panthers will take Gabbert to ensure they have the top QB to start a new HC's regiem and have last yrs pick as a nice young back up. Buffalo will take Newton. They need a QB and Newton is the mobile QB they need. After that it's up for grabs. I still think there will be atleast one other QB possibly two picked prior to the Skins pick.

Where is Cinci at with Palmer? Arizona needs a better QB then the two they got. 49ers are not sold on who they have. Unless the 49ers HC is going to bide his time this yr and wait for his college QB to come out next year then he will need a QB who fits his system. I'm not sure the ones they have do and not sure they think they do.

Then the next question is can we wait till round 2 to get the one we are looking at? the Vikes need a QB and Miami. The unfortunate thing is all teams have to act as if the CBA is not getting fixed until after season starts which means filling holes through the draft. It's better teams "plan for the worst and hope for the best" and pick to fill holes vs. "hoping for the best and not filling a hole."

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Gabbert won't be there at #10 I gaurentee that. JLC's and idiot.

Personally I think the Panthers will take Gabbert to ensure they have the top QB to start a new HC's regiem and have last yrs pick as a nice young back up. Buffalo will take Newton. They need a QB and Newton is the mobile QB they need. After that it's up for grabs. I still think there will be atleast one other QB possibly two picked prior to the Skins pick

Where is Cinci at with Palmer? Arizona needs a better QB then the two they got. 49ers are not sold on who they have. Unless the 49ers HC is going to bide his time this yr and wait for his college QB to come out next year then he will need a QB who fits his system. I'm not sure the ones they have do and not sure they think they do.

I wouldn't say it's impossible for him to fall to 10 but I think it's fair in saying that it's highly unlikely. Carolina is now 90% likely to take Newton at 1. Cincinnati apparently wants to go Wideout in the first and take someone from the Dalton-Ponder tier with their next pick. Buffalo is being linked heavily to Ponder. Arizona loves Von Miller and is a favorite to make a play for Kolb.

Tenneessee might like Locker better then anyone and is rumored to prefer trading out of 8 no matter what so it's certainly possible but I say highly unlikely that everything goes down like that.

Then the next question is can we wait till round 2 to get the one we are looking at? the Vikes need a QB and Miami. The unfortunate thing is all teams have to act as if the CBA is not getting fixed until after season starts which means filling holes through the draft. It's better teams "plan for the worst and hope for the best" and pick to fill holes vs. "hoping for the best and not filling a hole."

At the very least theres a lot of teams looking QB and this is a deep (albeit not top heavy) class, but you still have only have 5 prospects that are liked by the majority of the QB hungry teams and 8 teams that could easily target any of those 5 prospects.

Locker is rumored to be going between 10 and 20. Newton is going to be first. Gabbert will probably be top 5. And whoever doesn't take a QB in the first between Cinci and Buffalo is likely to look at Ponder in the second. Also there are rumors of Seattle taking someone like Dalton or Ponder at 25 and teams wanting to trade up to 24 to insure that they get their guy.

Either way it's a mess right now. I can't wait till Thrusday.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Gabbert won't be there at #10 I gaurentee that. JLC's and idiot.

Personally I think the Panthers will take Gabbert to ensure they have the top QB to start a new HC's regiem and have last yrs pick as a nice young back up. Buffalo will take Newton. They need a QB and Newton is the mobile QB they need. After that it's up for grabs. I still think there will be atleast one other QB possibly two picked prior to the Skins pick.

Where is Cinci at with Palmer? Arizona needs a better QB then the two they got. 49ers are not sold on who they have. Unless the 49ers HC is going to bide his time this yr and wait for his college QB to come out next year then he will need a QB who fits his system. I'm not sure the ones they have do and not sure they think they do.

Then the next question is can we wait till round 2 to get the one we are looking at? the Vikes need a QB and Miami. The unfortunate thing is all teams have to act as if the CBA is not getting fixed until after season starts which means filling holes through the draft. It's better teams "plan for the worst and hope for the best" and pick to fill holes vs. "hoping for the best and not filling a hole."

I agree that JLC is basically an idiot, especially when it comes to the Redskins. He had about a 30% accuracy rating when he was an 'insider' at Redskins Park, now he knows squat.

Other than that, I pretty much disagree with everything else. Carolina is locked in on Cam. There's probably about a 60% chance that unless Minnesota jumps above us that Gabbert is sitting at 10. Buffalo won't take him, Cincy will go AJ Green, Cleveland goes Julio Jones, Arizona and SF will go defense and Tennessee is gaga for Locker. Gabbert should fall right into our laps.

[mlmpetert]

I thought about this for a while. At first i thought Kyle's because hopefully hes the future of our team. Then i decided on Mike.

Mike has had pretty good success of picking QBs, but more importantly Kyle hasnt ever had major input on picking a QB besides, presumably, McNabb. I dont want a 31 year old picking a QB. Shanahan grew up as overachieving QB before he bacme a coach and i think he probably has MUCH better insight into the position then Kyle. I will admit that i dont want Dalton and i do want Locker, but id rather have the QB Mike prefers even if Locker is a smokescreen and he secretly wants Dalton or God forbid Gabbet.