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That Guy · 08-11-2011, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Lets see.

Carolina, yes. Rookie QB from a spread system with very little official time to practice. A sophmore QB that was just horrible last year. Not totally giving up on Clausen but he might need to sign up for the John Beck change of scenery plan one day.

Denver, eh could go either way. Their defense is undergoing a complete overhaul and as we know that doesn't always go very well. On the other hand Orton is a very solid QB.

Buffalo, a scarpy team that will always play you tough. However they don't exactly have the worlds greatest head coach, Fitzpatrick is average, and they play in the AFC Beast. They're actually my pick for Luck next year.

then we need to switch our draft picks pretty quick like.

budw38 · 08-11-2011, 08:03 AM

As far as the rankings , the teams from 14 down are all in the same heap .

Landry44 · 08-11-2011, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

It sucks, but I can't totally blame them. The Kerrigan thing isn't going so well so far, and Beck affair is almost considered a joke. I stated in another thread last night that it is sad when the Detroit Lions have more solid depth at Qb than we do. I mean really now. A few years back a lot of us were making fun of Grossman, but now he is a Skin it is like yeah baby!!!!!!! I don't think so. We need to draft a QB next season and in 2013 to get some decent depth.

I could agree with you more. This whole Beck thing is a joke. I mean I completely understand that we're rebuilding, but what surprises me is how people actually believe that this guy can take us somewhere. When it comes to Rex Grossman, lets be real, he's a very mediocre qb. He has proven without a resonable doubt that 3rd stringer at best. What I'm hoping for is a 2-14 or 3-13 season so we can get a top 3 pick and draft either Andrew Luck, Landry Jones, or Matt Barkley.

Jontrem · 08-11-2011, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Landry44

I could agree with you more. This whole Beck thing is a joke. I mean I completely understand that we're rebuilding, but what surprises me is how people actually believe that this guy can take us somewhere. When it comes to Rex Grossman, lets be real, he's a very mediocre qb. He has proven without a resonable doubt that 3rd stringer at best. What I'm hoping for is a 2-14 or 3-13 season so we can get a top 3 pick and draft either Andrew Luck, Landry Jones, or Matt Barkley.

Hoping for a 2-14 of 3-13 season? I cant get there, I mean I do understand the reasoning(and I agree it is sound), we will never be elite until we get an elite quarterback and the best way to do that is to get a high draft pick. However as a fan it is just not in me to route for them to lose. Look at Tampa with Josh Freeman, he was the 17th pick and he is proving to be a great young QB, Aaron Rodgers was a 24th, Drew Brees was a second round pick, Tom Brady was famously a 7th rounder.

So I will keep hoping to win as many games as possible!

Hog1 · 08-11-2011, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Landry44

I could agree with you more. This whole Beck thing is a joke. I mean I completely understand that we're rebuilding, but what surprises me is how people actually believe that this guy can take us somewhere. When it comes to Rex Grossman, lets be real, he's a very mediocre qb. He has proven without a resonable doubt that 3rd stringer at best. What I'm hoping for is a 2-14 or 3-13 season so we can get a top 3 pick and draft either Andrew Luck, Landry Jones, or Matt Barkley.

The fact that any......"Redskin fan" wishes for a losing season for....any reason is heinous.........

mooby · 08-12-2011, 01:17 AM

I can't wait to bump the Beck thread once the season is over and we don't have a top 3 pick so we can look back at everyone who said that's all starting Beck/Grossman will do for us. All I'm going to say is if you are going to make outlandish statements like that you better be prepared to back it up when the chips are down. And if I'm wrong and we do end up with a top 3 pick, please feel free to hold me accountable. People are acting like we took an undrafted rookie free quarterback who couldn't play Division 3 college football and are inserting him into the lineup on day 1.

wilsowilso · 08-12-2011, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Landry44

When it comes to Rex Grossman, lets be real, he's a very mediocre qb. He has proven without a resonable doubt that 3rd stringer at best.

I'm not even a Rex Grossman fan but your assessment that he is a third string NFL QB at best is awful.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 08-12-2011, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jontrem

Hoping for a 2-14 of 3-13 season? I cant get there, I mean I do understand the reasoning(and I agree it is sound), we will never be elite until we get an elite quarterback and the best way to do that is to get a high draft pick. However as a fan it is just not in me to route for them to lose. Look at Tampa with Josh Freeman, he was the 17th pick and he is proving to be a great young QB, Aaron Rodgers was a 24th, Drew Brees was a second round pick, Tom Brady was famously a 7th rounder.

So I will keep hoping to win as many games as possible!

Brady was a 6th rounder.

Meks · 08-12-2011, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Landry44

I could agree with you more. This whole Beck thing is a joke. I mean I completely understand that we're rebuilding, but what surprises me is how people actually believe that this guy can take us somewhere. When it comes to Rex Grossman, lets be real, he's a very mediocre qb. He has proven without a resonable doubt that 3rd stringer at best. What I'm hoping for is a 2-14 or 3-13 season so we can get a top 3 pick and draft either Andrew Luck, Landry Jones, or Matt Barkley.

I honestly hope Rex makes u eat ur words. Smh take that negative attitude somewhere else.

CRedskinsRule · 08-12-2011, 09:44 AM

I have no idea what Beck can or can't do. That said, people writing off a second round pick after only 4 starts for a 1-15 team seems ridiculous. Granted he's not taken charge and forced himself into the lineup anywhere, but he has had a year to learn the system, get comfortable in it, and start developing. Isn't that how you "are supposed to" develop a qb? Maybe he sparks, maybe he falls flat, but I think that for a CB we were gonna cut, we ought to give him a chance.

As for the media writing him off, well DC media mad hatters clearly are gonna find fault with whomever MS put in there. Does anyone think that Gabbert would be getting any love from the DC media if he were here? I don't.

In the end, for 1 qb(gabbert) we got two solid, imo, D players, for a D that definitely needed it. And if we need a qb, next years' crop is supposedly head and shoulders above this years.

Hog1 · 08-12-2011, 10:18 AM

Regardless of what they say to the public, I do not believe for a moment that either JB or Rex is intended to lead this team to the promised land....NOR do los dos Shanahan's believe that. They are basically place holders to take the helm until the francise guy can be acquired (while the team reloads)......presumably in the upcoming offseason. If they lead us to glory... be happy.
BTW....MS doesn't give F.... what you think. He's the coach for a reason....like cause he can?
I applaud him for that.......

NC_Skins · 08-12-2011, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Landry44

I could agree with you more. This whole Beck thing is a joke. I mean I completely understand that we're rebuilding, but what surprises me is how people actually believe that this guy can take us somewhere. When it comes to Rex Grossman, lets be real, he's a very mediocre qb. He has proven without a resonable doubt that 3rd stringer at best. What I'm hoping for is a 2-14 or 3-13 season so we can get a top 3 pick and draft either Andrew Luck, Landry Jones, or Matt Barkley.

When did the Extremeskins idiots roll into here? Don't mean to be a dick, but any Redskins fan "hoping" for a 2-14 or 3-13 season is a idiot. End of story.

Jontrem · 08-12-2011, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Brady was a 6th rounder.

My bad, you are obviously correct. My point remains the same however.

MTK · 08-12-2011, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

When did the Extremeskins idiots roll into here? Don't mean to be a dick, but any Redskins fan "hoping" for a 2-14 or 3-13 season is a idiot. End of story.

I'm really tired of garbage takes like that too.

Hopefully we don't have to hear it all season.

Skinsfanatic · 08-12-2011, 10:56 AM

The only time it is acceptable to "hope" for 3-13 is when you are 0-13.

08-11-2011, 08:03 AM	#62
budw38 Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern,Va. Posts: 2,706	Re: NFL Power Rankings As far as the rankings , the teams from 14 down are all in the same heap .

08-12-2011, 01:17 AM	#66
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,477	Re: NFL Power Rankings I can't wait to bump the Beck thread once the season is over and we don't have a top 3 pick so we can look back at everyone who said that's all starting Beck/Grossman will do for us. All I'm going to say is if you are going to make outlandish statements like that you better be prepared to back it up when the chips are down. And if I'm wrong and we do end up with a top 3 pick, please feel free to hold me accountable. People are acting like we took an undrafted rookie free quarterback who couldn't play Division 3 college football and are inserting him into the lineup on day 1. __________________ Hail to the Football Team

08-12-2011, 09:44 AM	#70
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 57 Posts: 21,452	Re: NFL Power Rankings I have no idea what Beck can or can't do. That said, people writing off a second round pick after only 4 starts for a 1-15 team seems ridiculous. Granted he's not taken charge and forced himself into the lineup anywhere, but he has had a year to learn the system, get comfortable in it, and start developing. Isn't that how you "are supposed to" develop a qb? Maybe he sparks, maybe he falls flat, but I think that for a CB we were gonna cut, we ought to give him a chance. As for the media writing him off, well DC media mad hatters clearly are gonna find fault with whomever MS put in there. Does anyone think that Gabbert would be getting any love from the DC media if he were here? I don't. In the end, for 1 qb(gabbert) we got two solid, imo, D players, for a D that definitely needed it. And if we need a qb, next years' crop is supposedly head and shoulders above this years.

08-12-2011, 10:18 AM	#71
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: NFL Power Rankings Regardless of what they say to the public, I do not believe for a moment that either JB or Rex is intended to lead this team to the promised land....NOR do los dos Shanahan's believe that. They are basically place holders to take the helm until the francise guy can be acquired (while the team reloads)......presumably in the upcoming offseason. If they lead us to glory... be happy. BTW....MS doesn't give F.... what you think. He's the coach for a reason....like cause he can? I applaud him for that....... __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

08-12-2011, 10:56 AM	#75
Skinsfanatic The Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,385	Re: NFL Power Rankings The only time it is acceptable to "hope" for 3-13 is when you are 0-13.

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