Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins at Cowboys)

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by redsk1

I hear you, but not too many QB's can out run a DE when the DE has momentum. The loss was ugly. Our team is not complete though. Grossman isn't our long term answer at qb. We should of won. We outplayed them, outcoached them, out executed them and lost. Grossman had a TD and a int. Romo had a Int no Td's and at least one fumble and he won.

In four games Grossman has four fumbles (all lost to the other team) and four interceptions. Eight turnovers for four games. If he were a RB and fumbled 4 times in four games, he would be benched.
He is staying true to his reputation as a fumbling turnover machine.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

You know this is one thing that really bothers me. I know Grossman will never be a gifted athlete. But at least get your fat ass in shape. I have never been a Grossman fan, but I am quickly running out of patience for Grossman as our starter. The Cowboys near 300 pound DE chased down Grossman from behind with no problem.
For those that are saying we are 2-1 and not to worry. I am not worried because we were 6-10 last year, but we played a Giants team that was injury depleted and a Cowboys team that could not find a WR that knew the plays. They had a Safety playing CB and QB with a fractured rib. This loss was UGLY. It should have never been close to begin with.
I blame Grossman for this loss.
This bad placement on the field goal was a bad play, but we should have been ahead by two TD's at that point.
We were 6-10 last year, I say we put in Beck and see what have in him.
WE KNOW WHAT WE HAVE IN GROSSMAN. He is a backup.

QBs are normally slow players. 4.8 40 times are typical of them. Anthony Spencer ran a 4.7 at the combine.

[The Goat]

Well...I think we saw a clearer picture of the roster but more importantly the coaching staff tonight.

1. Coaching. Haslett is awful, just awful. I've never had faith in his ability and definitely believe he was very lucky in the first two games. How can you leave Hall alone in coverage (no safety back there)? How can your blitz calls continually get picked up by one of the worst offensive lines in the league?

I honestly can't say whether we have the right personnel for the 3-4 scheme yet, and toward the bigger picture I think there's still an argument to be made this coaching/FO regime was stupid to make the switch away from the 4-3 when and how it did, but regardless Haslett isn't a winner. He's making stupid calls and taking stupid risks in his 2nd season...again, Hall in lone coverage and no safety help in a close game.

The coaching on the offensive side of the ball isn't much better. Shanny didn't stay committed to the run and let the offense get predictable.

2.) On the player side I don't have a problem giving Beck a shot. Rex is sinking (comfortably) into his bad old habits of forcing lousy passes on not protecting the football.

Jammal Brown is also in the dog house, but altogether I don't think this oline has anything to brag about. Again it begs the question of coaching/FO decisions. Why do we have the guys we do on the line in Bruce and Mike's second season?

I remember thinking last year how disappointing the new regime was in light of a championship level coach returning from a hiatus i.e. you'd expect a solid plan that produces results. This season isn't much different. Defensively, unless Orakpo and Kerrigan have great games we're very mediocre. We faced an absolutely terrible offense tonight and they scored more points than we did. Offensively, we (still) don't have a solution at QB and (still) don't have a dominant possession receiver. And most importantly we still struggle to put points on the board when it matters.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Well...I think we saw a clearer picture of the roster but more importantly the coaching staff tonight.

1. Coaching. Haslett is awful, just awful. I've never had faith in his ability and definitely believe he was very lucky in the first two games. How can you leave Hall alone in coverage (no safety back there)? How can your blitz calls continually get picked up by one of the worst offensive lines in the league?

I honestly can't say whether we have the right personnel for the 3-4 scheme yet, and toward the bigger picture I think there's still an argument to be made this coaching/FO regime was stupid to make the switch away from the 4-3 when and how it did, but regardless Haslett isn't a winner. He's making stupid calls and taking stupid risks in his 2nd season...again, Hall in lone coverage and no safety help in a close game.

The coaching on the offensive side of the ball isn't much better. Shanny didn't stay committed to the run and let the offense get predictable.

2.) On the player side I don't have a problem giving Beck a shot. Rex is sinking (comfortably) into his bad old habits of forcing lousy passes on not protecting the football.

Jammal Brown is also in the dog house, but altogether I don't think this oline has anything to brag about. Again it begs the question of coaching/FO decisions. Why do we have the guys we do on the line in Bruce and Mike's second season?

I remember thinking last year how disappointing the new regime was in light of a championship level coach returning from a hiatus i.e. you'd expect a solid plan that produces results. This season isn't much different. Defensively, unless Orakpo and Kerrigan have great games we're very mediocre. We faced an absolutely terrible offense tonight and they scored more points than we did. Offensively, we (still) don't have a solution at QB and (still) don't have a dominant possession receiver. And most importantly we still struggle to put points on the board when it matters.

As much as I feel like Rex isn't the answer and really don't like him at QB, I just don't think benching him or even trying Beck out for 1 game is the answer. Rex (apparently) is getting comfortable with the coaches and like how the coaches trust him, bench him even for 1 game and that trust potentially goes out the window and the "F*** it, I'm going deep" Rex could be back in action, simply because he feels like he has to prove his worth. I mean did anyone really think we were gonna have a playoff team with Grossman at the helm? I mean maybe... but... At this point we just have to ride Rex out this season and pray that we can start building a franchise QB next season.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

As much as I feel like Rex isn't the answer and really don't like him at QB, I just don't think benching him or even trying Beck out for 1 game is the answer. Rex (apparently) is getting comfortable with the coaches and like how the coaches trust him, bench him even for 1 game and that trust potentially goes out the window and the "F*** it, I'm going deep" Rex could be back in action, simply because he feels like he has to prove his worth. I mean did anyone really think we were gonna have a playoff team with Grossman at the helm? I mean maybe... but... At this point we just have to ride Rex out this season and pray that we can start building a franchise QB next season.

Agree w/ all this...but then why not try Beck for three or four reg season games? At this point aren't we just searching for the best backup?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Agree w/ all this...but then why not try Beck for three or four reg season games? At this point aren't we just searching for the best backup?

You need some type of continuity at QB. You do what you are suggesting when you are 2-9 and out of the playoff hunt. We are just three weeks into the season.

[Swarley]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Well...I think we saw a clearer picture of the roster but more importantly the coaching staff tonight.

1. Coaching. Haslett is awful, just awful. I've never had faith in his ability and definitely believe he was very lucky in the first two games. How can you leave Hall alone in coverage (no safety back there)? How can your blitz calls continually get picked up by one of the worst offensive lines in the league?

I honestly can't say whether we have the right personnel for the 3-4 scheme yet, and toward the bigger picture I think there's still an argument to be made this coaching/FO regime was stupid to make the switch away from the 4-3 when and how it did, but regardless Haslett isn't a winner. He's making stupid calls and taking stupid risks in his 2nd season...again, Hall in lone coverage and no safety help in a close game.

Like Gtripp said somewhere. Hasslet was calling a great game through 59 plays and got exposed on the 60th. That doesnt sound like awful to me.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Well...I think we saw a clearer picture of the roster but more importantly the coaching staff tonight.

1. Coaching. Haslett is awful, just awful. I've never had faith in his ability and definitely believe he was very lucky in the first two games. How can you leave Hall alone in coverage (no safety back there)? How can your blitz calls continually get picked up by one of the worst offensive lines in the league?

I honestly can't say whether we have the right personnel for the 3-4 scheme yet, and toward the bigger picture I think there's still an argument to be made this coaching/FO regime was stupid to make the switch away from the 4-3 when and how it did, but regardless Haslett isn't a winner. He's making stupid calls and taking stupid risks in his 2nd season...again, Hall in lone coverage and no safety help in a close game.

The coaching on the offensive side of the ball isn't much better. Shanny didn't stay committed to the run and let the offense get predictable.

2.) On the player side I don't have a problem giving Beck a shot. Rex is sinking (comfortably) into his bad old habits of forcing lousy passes on not protecting the football.

Jammal Brown is also in the dog house, but altogether I don't think this oline has anything to brag about. Again it begs the question of coaching/FO decisions. Why do we have the guys we do on the line in Bruce and Mike's second season?

I remember thinking last year how disappointing the new regime was in light of a championship level coach returning from a hiatus i.e. you'd expect a solid plan that produces results. This season isn't much different. Defensively, unless Orakpo and Kerrigan have great games we're very mediocre. We faced an absolutely terrible offense tonight and they scored more points than we did. Offensively, we (still) don't have a solution at QB and (still) don't have a dominant possession receiver. And most importantly we still struggle to put points on the board when it matters.

Don't kid yourself, Romo deserves all the knob-slobbing he's getting right now. His center and his wideouts were letting him down big time, between him, Felix Jones, Witten, and Dez Bryant on the one play they needed him tonight, they were the reasons the Cowboys kept getting into field goal range.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Well...I think we saw a clearer picture of the roster but more importantly the coaching staff tonight.

1. Coaching. Haslett is awful, just awful. I've never had faith in his ability and definitely believe he was very lucky in the first two games. How can you leave Hall alone in coverage (no safety back there)? How can your blitz calls continually get picked up by one of the worst offensive lines in the league?

I honestly can't say whether we have the right personnel for the 3-4 scheme yet, and toward the bigger picture I think there's still an argument to be made this coaching/FO regime was stupid to make the switch away from the 4-3 when and how it did, but regardless Haslett isn't a winner. He's making stupid calls and taking stupid risks in his 2nd season...again, Hall in lone coverage and no safety help in a close game.

The coaching on the offensive side of the ball isn't much better. Shanny didn't stay committed to the run and let the offense get predictable.

2.) On the player side I don't have a problem giving Beck a shot. Rex is sinking (comfortably) into his bad old habits of forcing lousy passes on not protecting the football.

Jammal Brown is also in the dog house, but altogether I don't think this oline has anything to brag about. Again it begs the question of coaching/FO decisions. Why do we have the guys we do on the line in Bruce and Mike's second season?

I remember thinking last year how disappointing the new regime was in light of a championship level coach returning from a hiatus i.e. you'd expect a solid plan that produces results. This season isn't much different. Defensively, unless Orakpo and Kerrigan have great games we're very mediocre. We faced an absolutely terrible offense tonight and they scored more points than we did. Offensively, we (still) don't have a solution at QB and (still) don't have a dominant possession receiver. And most importantly we still struggle to put points on the board when it matters.

Good god, Seriously?

Are we STILL going to second guess the switch from the 4-3? Dude, it happened. Get over it. At least it was done in year one of the Shanahan era when they're rebuilding anyway.

And Haslett? He had their offense stymied for most of the game. Didn't allow a TD. By the way, we broke Romo's team record 20-game TD streak. Yeah, the 3rd and 21 bites, but that's what Romo does -- he improvises, and makes things happen when it looks like all is lost. He's done it throughout his career.

[skinsfaninok]

Goat our OL isn't that bad actually and in all fairness J.H has done a decent job so far, 2 out of 3 games under 20 points.

[Ruhskins]

Goat, I don't think Haslett is awful, but that blitz may have cost us the game at that point. In addition to players that don't execute (Hall, Grossman, etc., etc.) I think coaches are making questionable calls.

Also...we don't seem to be good any anything on offense. We used to be a running team....but that doesn't seem the case. And Grossman is not going to win a game for us. So I'd be more concerned about the offense.

[Ruhskins]

By the way, where the f*ck was Fred Davis tonight? The guy has back-to-back huge games and he is a non factor tonight? What went wrong?

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

By the way, where the f*ck was Fred Davis tonight? The guy has back-to-back huge games and he is a non factor tonight? What went wrong?

Was wondering this myself, but then again we saw Cooley quite a bit more tonight, yes?

...I think Davis needs to be our primary TE.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Was wondering this myself, but then again we saw Cooley quite a bit more tonight, yes?

...I think Davis needs to be our primary TE.

I think Davis needs to be our pass-catching TE and put Cooley back to the H-back position (like tonight). KS needs to figure out how to make them both productive in a game.

[skinsfaninok]

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