Gruden 2012 QB Camp Schedule

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

As SS said, it would be interesting to see what was left out.

or how many retakes they had to do on any specific topic. lol.

[Lotus]

I was a little leery when most of the opening footage was of Griffin running...

Then when I saw the rest, it made me agree with CRed and Celts that it was a letdown.

[JoeRedskin]

What football discussion there was seem to focus on RGIII as a runner and how the option game would transpose to the pro level. Very little about passing. I like watching how RGIII handles himself but, Chucky is generally just annoying to me and this show did nothing to change my general perception of him.

[MTK]

I admit I was intrigued thinking about RG3 running the option, pitching it to Helu.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I admit I was intrigued thinking about RG3 running the option, pitching it to Helu.

Yeah that was great stuff. I was more intrigued with him saying that he's fine keeping it and taking it up the middle. I'm not sure I want him doing that but the potential versatility of our offense is going to be scary. I just hope the Shanahan's let this kid do his thing.

[CRedskinsRule]

Having said all that, I did like the throwing part, especially when he put it spot on in the endzone.

[skinsfaninok]

Many "experts " said cam would be a bust and couldn't make the NFL throws.. well they were wrong . It's really a crap shoot and I'm hoping Griffin becomes that franchise type of a Qb but again it's 50/50

[JoeRedskin]

So as Smootsmack said, much more was shot than shown. In addition it looks like we will get to see RGIII grilled on his X's and O's:

I reached out to Monday Night Football producer Jay Rothman, who was happy to explain that they collect more than five hours of tape for each of these shows and must, of course, cut that down to the most compelling possible 22 or 23 minutes (to account for the commercials).

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The important thing to remember is that Griffin was put through the same X-and-O paces by Gruden as Luck was. That stuff just didn't make it on-air. But if you really want to see it, you will get your chance.

Rothman told me that Gruden occasionally brings in a guest when he feels it's appropriate to the subject, and he invited former NFL quarterback (and Heisman Trophy winner and No. 1 pick) Vinny Testaverde in for the chalkboard portion of his time with Griffin. The producers are in the process of editing that portion of the session -- Griffin being grilled on Xs and Os by Gruden and Testaverde -- to air on a future edition of "NFL Live." So at some point in the future (I'll try my best to let you know when), you will be able to see that portion of Griffin's time with Gruden, if you're hungry for more.

More thoughts on RG3 and Gruden camp - NFC East Blog - ESPN

[MTK]

Why don't they make these shows an hour long, at least for the big dogs like Luck and Griffin? With 5 hours of tape I'm sure they can find a good 45 minutes to show.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Why don't they make these shows an hour long, at least for the big dogs like Luck and Griffin? With 5 hours of tape I'm sure they can find a good 45 minutes to show.

I had actually figured they were an hour, and when I was coming home to watch Luck's last week, I ended up missing what I thought was the first half hour. When I turned the channel on, Gruden was wrapping it up and the credits were rolling. Boy, I was a bit peeved.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Why don't they make these shows an hour long, at least for the big dogs like Luck and Griffin? With 5 hours of tape I'm sure they can find a good 45 minutes to show.

Yeah exactly. They don't put all the X-O stuff in the show, but they make sure to show you that RG3 has Great socks!

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Why don't they make these shows an hour long, at least for the big dogs like Luck and Griffin? With 5 hours of tape I'm sure they can find a good 45 minutes to show.

I'll ask. But I know that from personal experience we generally tried to have half-hour shows because it was easier to slot in repeats of 30 minute shows in an already tight schedule with all the live programming

[30gut]

The Luck and Griffin ones were just the first two to air. They don't want each of them to feel exactly the same.

"In the case of RG3, he had such a great personality, the stuff he was giving us was compelling," Rothman said. "Each of the shows has its own personality and feel, and I think at the end of the RG3 one, fans got a sense of what the kid was all about. In the body of the storytelling, you get a sense of the kid -- his personality, his smarts, all of that."

With all due respect to Mr.Rothman but if that's what thinks football fans want then they should find a football guy to produce the Gruden series.

We watch specifically to see the X's and O's.
You can make each episode different in other ways but the X's and O's portion is critical and I doubt anyone would complain that 'oh man they always do the X's and O's portion'.

[MTK]

I found the RG3 episode to be entertaining nonetheless.

More X's and O's would have been nice, but the lack of it didn't ruin it for me.

Not everyone tuning in is a hardcore fan.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I found the RG3 episode to be entertaining nonetheless.

More X's and O's would have been nice, but the lack of it didn't ruin it for me.

Not everyone tuning in is a hardcore fan.

Not everyone is a diehard but that particular show was supposed to be more of a serious x & o football show. At least I always thought it was anyway. I enjoyed it also just wanted the other stuff to Regardless I guess my beef was not with gruden but with whoever was in charge of producing the show.