Was McNabb misused in Minnesota also?

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

He has pretty emphatically said he is not and will not be a backup. So no one is interested in him right now.

As for your 2nd point I don't get it

Unless McNabb has financial issues (which im nearly certain he doesnt, as he was smart w his money) he ‘s right not have any interest in being a backup. Its kind of sad though, considering if his last 2 years were at least average he probably would of had a shot at the HOF.

In regards to my second point i think McNabb was smart to say what he said. McNabb has usually always said the right thing. Never really bad mouthed anyone but stayed confident in himself at the same time. In a way he reminds me a little of Teddy Bruschi, although Bruschi is a generally likable guy with a lot of personality, while McNabb often comes across bland and un-emotional. But they are both “stand up guys” and never seem to strongly take sides. Well as likable as Teddy is, he is pretty bad as an ESPN analyst, he never says something compelling. McNabb also rarely says anything compelling, but unfortunately he’s also not all that personable.

Furthermore a lot of people agree with what McNabb said. Sure McNabb said it primarly in defense of himself, but he also said it out of concern for Griffin. Wilbon and Kornhieser, both of whom I cant stand but can make compelling arguments and are successful despite any prior athleticism or good looks, have echoed similar concerns with RGIII in DC. I know you are a big KS fan, and one day I hope to be too, but the thing that concerns me the most about getting Griffin (or Luck) is that Kyle might in effect “ruin” him by being inflexible in what he wants Griffin to do. Obviously I hope im wrong and Kyle coaches to his players strengths. Or maybe it wont matter if Kyle is un-compromising or not, because Griffin is as much of a perfect fit to Kyle’s offense as Chris Simms is to Kyle’s friendship. Either way I think it’s a reasonable conern.

I also think that considering how partial philly fans are to everything, anything McNabb can say that’s derogatory in any sense about the Redskins the better it is for his post career enshrinement with the eagles. If we had a qb like McNabb I would hope to have a continued relationship with him in his post playing career. Fans can dictate that relationship to some extent.

[Hog1]

You may be right, but then again, how many other teams do you follow closely enough to be aware of such things?
......I can say, I do not. And other than Mc...., off the top of my head, I cannot think of anyone else being......disgruntled with the organization under the current regime.

[SmootSmack]

I should specify that it's not just he won't be a backup. Its that he's not willing to compete for the job, like say David Garrard. If McNabb said that yes he was willing to compete for a job, may the best man win, he'd have gotten some phone calls.

I still don't see why it's so important he have post-career success in Philly. And if anything if he was more successful outside of Philly, I'd think Eagles fans would be more inclined to believe he was good, and not just a product of his football environment.

McNabb has said both Manning and Griffin-about as opposite of QBs as you could imagine (both skills wise and experience wise) are terrible fits for the Redskins. He's also blared Shanahan for Beck's failures last year (as if Beck himself had nothing to do with it and Beck has been a stellar QB throughout his NFL career), says Brian Griese was a failure under Shanahan (even though Griese was better than anyone could have anticipated under Shanahan), called Cutler a loser under Shanahan. It was evident it was and is personal

Why don't we ask McNabb why he didn't more in his career as the #2 overall pick, why he failed with the Vikings, why when he was benched here players barely made a peep over his benching, but when Rex was benched last season there was nearly a mutiny.

I liked the trade when it happened. Because I felt he was a solid veteran QB and would be a strong presence in the locker room. However, I had said even then we needed to also add a young QB to develop and, much to my surprise, I discovered that first summer that McNabb is nothing like what I had believed and not the strong locker room presence we believed, not strong in a positive way at least

[SBXVII]

I for one had reservations on the McNabb signing. I really didn't think it was going to take place and was shocked that it did. A healthy McNabb would have been a good signing but McNabb was still battling his rib issues if hit hard enough and knee issue's. Basically he couldn't run like he used to. That would force him to be a pocket passer which at the time I thought we needed someone more mobile for the roll outs.

When he got signed I held out hope that the team knew what it was doing and that they would work around McNabbs abilities or lack there of. They didn't. They wanted him to do what he did early on in his career and he just was not fast enough anymore. On top of that he obviously had trouble remembering the plays and then wouldn't wear the arm band and get embarrassed. Whatever. He's gone.

The media made fun of him today on the radio, he's talking about how RG3 won't be a good fit? Why cause you were not McNabb? and how he starts running off each QB who has failed at QB.... but fails to mention himself? WTF? lol.

[MTK]

Donovan McNabb is bitter at Shanahans, but does he have a point? - The Washington Post

[Hog1]

The Deon vid........killed me. I laughed more at the guy next to Deon...couldn't stop himself....funny stuff.

[REDSKINS4ever]

I honestly didn't see anything wrong with McNabb's game during the 13 game stretch when he was the Redskins quarterback in 2010. His QB rating was undoubtedly the lowest of his career, but it was higher than Grossman's or Beck's was in 2011.

All of that aside, I agree with him on some things. It's hard to say that the Shanahan's are not arrogant. But then again to say that Griffin III won't succeed or is won't be effective because of what he's being asked to do is not true at all. RG3 can probably adept to any type of offense. A young QB with his abilities should be able to play well in any pro style offense or any version of the west coast offense.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

I honestly didn't see anything wrong with McNabb's game during the 13 game stretch when he was the Redskins quarterback in 2010. His QB rating was undoubtedly the lowest of his career, but it was higher than Grossman's or Beck's was in 2011.

All of that aside, I agree with him on some things. It's hard to say that the Shanahan's are not arrogant. But then again to say that Griffin III won't succeed or is won't be effective because of what he's being asked to do is not true at all. RG3 can probably adept to any type of offense. A young QB with his abilities should be able to play well in any pro style offense or any version of the west coast offense.

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[NYCskinfan82]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever;905489[[B

B]]I honestly didn't see anything wrong with McNabb's game during the 13 game stretch when he was the Redskins quarterback in 2010[/B[/B]]. His QB rating was undoubtedly the lowest of his career, but it was higher than Grossman's or Beck's was in 2011.

All of that aside, I agree with him on some things. It's hard to say that the Shanahan's are not arrogant. But then again to say that Griffin III won't succeed or is won't be effective because of what he's being asked to do is not true at all. RG3 can probably adept to any type of offense. A young QB with his abilities should be able to play well in any pro style offense or any version of the west coast offense.

Want Brand of TV do you own because I need to by it.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

I honestly didn't see anything wrong with McNabb's game during the 13 game stretch when he was the Redskins quarterback in 2010. His QB rating was undoubtedly the lowest of his career, but it was higher than Grossman's or Beck's was in 2011.

McNabb's on the field play didn't warrant his treatment.
QBs going into a new situation, especially on a bad team, often have less then stellar production in their 1st year.
But, most are given a second year.
The fact that McNabb was done after 13 games suggests to me that there was something more to the story then on the field play.

The McNabb debacle, and it was a debacle, was a failure on both ends.

[Monksdown]

I enjoy my ignorance of the details. Either way i defer to the organizations perpective. f0ck Donovan for all the years he beat us in Philly. f0ck Donovan for sucking when he played with us. and f0ck Donovan again for what he said in that interview. At every turn, he shits on me. I'm anti-McNabb. 3 strikes and he's out.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by 30gut

McNabb's on the field play didn't warrant his treatment.
QBs going into a new situation, especially on a bad team, often have less then stellar production in their 1st year.
But, most are given a second year.
The fact that McNabb was done after 13 games suggests to me that there was something more to the story then on the field play.

The McNabb debacle, and it was a debacle, was a failure on both ends.

Cop out. McNabb didn't want to put in the work and dedication it took to succeed. Refused to pick up the tempo of the offense, refused to wear a arm band, and had the team in wrong formations at the line of scrimmage.

No, **** that assclown. He got benched for Rex Grossman and Beck. THEN, he turn around and got benched again in Minnesota and demoted to 3rd string AFTER tailoring the offense to suit him. He still couldn't get it done.

McNabb got exactly what he deserved and now I see why Philly fans hated the guy. He's a bum.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

~angry post

You can choose to believe whatever you like.
I prefer not to rely on hersey and unsourced 'claims' and 'reports'.
What I know is that McNabb was coming off a pro-bowl season.
I know that McNabb's on the field play didn't warrant his treatment.
QBs going into a new situation, especially on a bad team, often have less then stellar production in their 1st year.
But, most are given a second year.
The fact that McNabb was done after 13 games suggests to me that there was something more to the story then on the field play.

The McNabb debacle, and it was a debacle, was a failure on both ends.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by 30gut

You can choose to believe whatever you like.
I prefer not to rely on hersey and unsourced 'claims' and 'reports'.
What I know is that McNabb was coming off a pro-bowl season.
I know that McNabb's on the field play didn't warrant his treatment.
QBs going into a new situation, especially on a bad team, often have less then stellar production in their 1st year.
But, most are given a second year.
The fact that McNabb was done after 13 games suggests to me that there was something more to the story then on the field play.

The McNabb debacle, and it was a debacle, was a failure on both ends.

How come McNabb wasn't given a second year in Minny?

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by 30gut

McNabb's on the field play didn't warrant his treatment.
QBs going into a new situation, especially on a bad team, often have less then stellar production in their 1st year.
But, most are given a second year.
The fact that McNabb was done after 13 games suggests to me that there was something more to the story then on the field play.

The McNabb debacle, and it was a debacle, was a failure on both ends.

Maybe you're right, his ON FIELD performance didn't warrant his treatment. He was pretty consistent with what he had been the previous 2 years in Philly when he was benched and injured. What got him treated that way was the fact that he didn't want to put in the additional work & study time to get better, didn't want to adjust to the offense, didn't want to accept coaching on his technique and footwork and was a locker room lawyer, trying to curry favor when the coaches started moving away from him.

If he didn't buck being coached and wasn't resistant to change, he would have been our 2011 starter.