Skins/Giants post game thread

CultBrennan59 · 10-21-2012, 05:33 PM

Well, Win or Loss today, I already thought we had lost, because losing Fred Davis is crucial for our offense. Sure Paulsen looked good, and Paul has speed, but neither is FD. Get ready for us to sign Cooley.

The turnovers were crucial as well. I said to one of my buddies that I just saw us blowing this game by fumbling it...hate it when I'm negatively right.

Robert played like a rookie a few times today, but overall he's still a top 10 QB.

From the start of the season I said our secondary sucks. So I feel like this isn't a surprise to anyone here that we would blow games or allow huge plays or both this season with that POS secondary we have. This offseason we better be looking at secondary guys in FA and Drafting CBs and S's in that draft all around.

I LOVED that our team was so competitive though with the "Best team in the NFC" at their place. Imagine how this game will be later in the season when we play these guys again AT our place.

I think even though our OL allowed 3 sacks, we still are ok there at that position. Sure Polumbus is the worst on that line, but he's still better than a lot of other teams RTs.

The penalty in the opening drive on FD not resetting killed us, but all in all, we still had a chance later in the game (2 chances actually) and blew it.

Oh well, on to the Steelers. A team that has problems all over their defense; but also has fast WRs that can and will beat you deep...

CrustyRedskin · 10-21-2012, 05:33 PM

The secondary should be charged with crimes against humanity.

Kindoy · 10-21-2012, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

RG3 is by far the R.O.Y and maybe the damn MVP be years end, he literally carries this team. JH will be fired after this season, my god how do u let CRUZ that wide open???????????????????????????

sad

we should be 4-3 and in 1st

Haslett didn't LET anyone get open. He was on the sideline last i checked.

punch it in · 10-21-2012, 05:34 PM

anyway - ill let the Redskins decide what to do about Haslett. I know what I would do.
We played on the road against the Giants and out played them. We shot ourselves in the foot - if we get BW back and Garcon we are going to be dangerous. Even if we dont - I will say again that we are going to win this division. So this is not be wanting to blow anything up - Im actually encouraged by what I saw today. I just think Haslett brings nothing to the table - at all.

skinsfaninok · 10-21-2012, 05:35 PM

Skins future is so bright , this one burns folks but we aren't a playoff team anyway. The D is too bad to be that kind of a team. I'm still saying 8-8

44ever · 10-21-2012, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by punch it in

What shit? im not saying fire the coach, im not giving up on the season. I still think we are going to win the division when its all said and done. Hasletts track record as a DC and HC in this league are well documented - he is a loser. I dont think a single player on the team will miss him.

We have to have stability and let everyone settle in as we continue to build around RG3 and fill in the holes on Def. If we keep starting over with new coaching, we will go nowhere. You say you believe we will win the division, you cant do that with bad coaching. be patient...

imaskin4life · 10-21-2012, 05:37 PM

it looked to me like they were in man coverage with 2 safeties deep -each covering a half of the field. on that play wilson got beat in man and madieu williams sucks -dont know what williams was thinking or doing there

Bucket · 10-21-2012, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by punch it in

Our offense and the long drives resulting in points basically kept eli off the field for the entire first half. Not sure I would say Haslett called a good game. Eli misfired on a lot of passes or it would never have been close. It is hasletts job to make sure someone is deep on that last drive. He failed.

No use trying to convince you. You have blinders on.. You just dont understand schemes and how its played or you are just being critical of anything. Haslett calls the defense .. Williams and Wilson were orchestrated to double team Cruz. Now take in to effect tbat the Giants still have 3photoshop timeoits and 1:50+ on the clock. They only need a FG. So throwing 2 safeties 30 yards back is not a good call.

Double man OVER was an excellent call for the situation. Ive watched it 3 times now, and Williams simply didnt REACT fast enough. He didnt react to the short or the deep. He just didnt do anything..

Chico23231 · 10-21-2012, 05:38 PM

Cant believe how good RG3 is. wow

skinsfaninok · 10-21-2012, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

Cant believe how good RG3 is. wow

he's elite status already imo

right now after 7 weeks name me 10 QBs better than RG3

punch it in · 10-21-2012, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 44ever

We have to have stability and let everyone settle in as we continue to build around RG3 and fill in the holes on Def. If we keep starting over with new coaching, we will go nowhere. You say you believe we will win the division, you cant do that with bad coaching. be patient...

We will win despite him. KS and MS have won and had success in other places - Haslett has a track record of losing and fielding mediocre to bad defenses. I dont think replacing your DC midseason is a blow it up and start all over again move by any stretch of the imagination. The guy is a liability.

Bucket · 10-21-2012, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by punch it in

I never said fire KS last year so not sure where you are going with that. If you think Haslett will be the DC on this team next year than I want some of what you are smoking. lol - why wait is all im saying.

Huh? Are you in the Redskins front office or own a time machine? Maybe they dont plan on firing Haslett and plan on working on the secondary in the offseason like they did with the QB position this year?

No ofcourse not.. Thats to much like building a team. Lets just fire Haslett and bring in a new scheme again.

Redskin Warrior · 10-21-2012, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

RG3 threw a horrible pick and fumbled the ball. This was an entire team loss, lots of blame to go around.

I agree but he redeem himself...at least in my eyes after he threw what should have been the game winning TD. It was a team loss of course but the Cruz TD broke our back.

Skinzman · 10-21-2012, 05:46 PM

On that last TD for Cruz, Judging by the way that Wilson was playing, he was expecting Williams over the top. Thats why he lets Cruz past him and undercuts him. It was a Hi-Lo double coverage that Williams went to sleep on.

I used to help coach on the youth level a while back and one thing I always told boys was "Nobody is a hero, Everybody is a team mate". Williams went for the hero play expecting Cruz to go short. He wanted to jump the route and be the hero. That Cruz TD is all on Williams. He cared about his stats over the team win. And thats exactly what happens when someone wants to be the hero.

mooby · 10-21-2012, 05:46 PM

They had Victor Cruz double covered on his touchdown pass, Williams just got blown out of the water and Eli put up a great throw. Can't blame Haslett on that one.

Turnovers is the main reason we lost today. When you turn the ball over 4 times in one half, most of the time you are going to lose. I'm not going to panic though because this is the only game this year where that has happened. Learn from it and move on.

And also give kudos to Blackburn or whomever it was that ripped the ball out from Moss on that last drive. He covered it up with both arms and their guy just had his arm in the right place at the right time. Moss has never been known for his ball security but it wasn't like he was being careless there.

View Poll Results: Goat of the week...
Secondary	45	48.39%
Turnovers	32	34.41%
Haslett	14	15.05%
other	2	2.15%
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10-21-2012, 05:33 PM	#61
CultBrennan59 Pro Bowl Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,526	Re: Skins/Giants post game thread Well, Win or Loss today, I already thought we had lost, because losing Fred Davis is crucial for our offense. Sure Paulsen looked good, and Paul has speed, but neither is FD. Get ready for us to sign Cooley. The turnovers were crucial as well. I said to one of my buddies that I just saw us blowing this game by fumbling it...hate it when I'm negatively right. Robert played like a rookie a few times today, but overall he's still a top 10 QB. From the start of the season I said our secondary sucks. So I feel like this isn't a surprise to anyone here that we would blow games or allow huge plays or both this season with that POS secondary we have. This offseason we better be looking at secondary guys in FA and Drafting CBs and S's in that draft all around. I LOVED that our team was so competitive though with the "Best team in the NFC" at their place. Imagine how this game will be later in the season when we play these guys again AT our place. I think even though our OL allowed 3 sacks, we still are ok there at that position. Sure Polumbus is the worst on that line, but he's still better than a lot of other teams RTs. The penalty in the opening drive on FD not resetting killed us, but all in all, we still had a chance later in the game (2 chances actually) and blew it. Oh well, on to the Steelers. A team that has problems all over their defense; but also has fast WRs that can and will beat you deep... __________________ "Anyones better than Madieu Williams"

10-21-2012, 05:33 PM	#62
CrustyRedskin Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: RatherbeinDC, TX Posts: 3,059	Re: Skins/Giants post game thread The secondary should be charged with crimes against humanity. __________________ Lafayette, we're here. HTTR. You wern't a bunch of losers on 10-27-14.

10-21-2012, 05:34 PM	#64
punch it in From a Land Down Under Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: toms river, nj Age: 53 Posts: 23,606	Re: Skins/Giants post game thread anyway - ill let the Redskins decide what to do about Haslett. I know what I would do. We played on the road against the Giants and out played them. We shot ourselves in the foot - if we get BW back and Garcon we are going to be dangerous. Even if we dont - I will say again that we are going to win this division. So this is not be wanting to blow anything up - Im actually encouraged by what I saw today. I just think Haslett brings nothing to the table - at all.

10-21-2012, 05:35 PM	#65
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,137	Re: Skins/Giants post game thread Skins future is so bright , this one burns folks but we aren't a playoff team anyway. The D is too bad to be that kind of a team. I'm still saying 8-8 __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

10-21-2012, 05:37 PM	#67
imaskin4life Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 283	Re: Skins/Giants post game thread it looked to me like they were in man coverage with 2 safeties deep -each covering a half of the field. on that play wilson got beat in man and madieu williams sucks -dont know what williams was thinking or doing there

10-21-2012, 05:38 PM	#69
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 34,503	Re: Skins/Giants post game thread Cant believe how good RG3 is. wow __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

10-21-2012, 05:46 PM	#74
Skinzman The Starter Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 1,066	Re: Skins/Giants post game thread On that last TD for Cruz, Judging by the way that Wilson was playing, he was expecting Williams over the top. Thats why he lets Cruz past him and undercuts him. It was a Hi-Lo double coverage that Williams went to sleep on. I used to help coach on the youth level a while back and one thing I always told boys was "Nobody is a hero, Everybody is a team mate". Williams went for the hero play expecting Cruz to go short. He wanted to jump the route and be the hero. That Cruz TD is all on Williams. He cared about his stats over the team win. And thats exactly what happens when someone wants to be the hero.

10-21-2012, 05:46 PM	#75
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,468	Re: Skins/Giants post game thread They had Victor Cruz double covered on his touchdown pass, Williams just got blown out of the water and Eli put up a great throw. Can't blame Haslett on that one. Turnovers is the main reason we lost today. When you turn the ball over 4 times in one half, most of the time you are going to lose. I'm not going to panic though because this is the only game this year where that has happened. Learn from it and move on. And also give kudos to Blackburn or whomever it was that ripped the ball out from Moss on that last drive. He covered it up with both arms and their guy just had his arm in the right place at the right time. Moss has never been known for his ball security but it wasn't like he was being careless there.

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