Lost Some Faith In Shanahan

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Bingo.

I'll be curious to see how many people in this forum got on Cutler's case when he was taken out of a game last year b/c he was hurt. I can't remember exactly, but I think it may have been a playoffs game or something late in the season.

By the same token, how many people would be slamming Shanahan if he had benched Griffin, and Cousins had lost us the game. RGIII would be whining about being benched, saying he wanted to stay in the game to win it for the team, but he had to do what coach said. Then Shanahan's getting slammed for creating a quarterback controversy.

[ashvirtually]

How do you add people to your ignore list? Can someone tell me, please?

[milellie111]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

You're combining two arguments that, in my mind, are competely seperate.

From a health perspective, I dont think RGIII should have played to begin with. He should have been inactive. However, since Shanahan decided to start him, at that point, you stick with him just like you would if he were 100% healthy. You only remove him if an injury that prevents him from playing.

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Both of those arguments are related to each other. It is simple. RG3 could not run, neither could he plant his feet to make effective throws because he WAS NOT healthy. His inefectiveness was due to him being injured.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Twice (that I saw) during playing time Griffin left the side lines to go into the stadium for evaluation and came back out. I would assume he under went another evaluation during half time. He came back onto the field of play. In my mind he was either cleared to play, which could mean a number of things, or he was not cleared and he or Shanny or both took the initiative to continue playing. Unfortunately we don't have and may not have for a while all of the information.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

You're combining two arguments that, in my mind, are competely seperate.

From a health perspective, I dont think RGIII should have played to begin with. He should have been inactive. However, since Shanahan decided to start him, at that point, you stick with him just like you would if he were 100% healthy. You only remove him if an injury that prevents him from playing.

Well, essentially the injury was preventing him from playing. It wasn't preventing him from taking the field, but after the 1st quarter it was preventing him from doing anything close to resembling effective QB play. At that point he should have been yanked.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

One partial reason, and I could be speaking only from my bias, is that rather than joining in discussions (ie replying to ongoing threads) you start a new thread that is a rehash of what others are already talking about. So then you simply spawn a thread which is a re-tread, and ultimately inane. But hey, don't worry about the other posts already discussing a topic, knock yourself out, and let us know the wisdom that comes from the fount of milellie11

Yes!

Mil- You rarely participate in any active discussions, but rather starts your own "look at me" threads that are often not necessary

You deserve grief for your "realistic" post because it was filled with so much flawed analysis.

You need to participate more in the active forums. Because right now most people see that you've started a new thread and-even if it's a legit discussion like this one-think "crap, here we go again. Another milellie thread"

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You want to get into he said, she said? I don't talk specifically to the guys in Denver (maybe Schlereth is the exception) and I've never spoken to anyone in Denver.

I thought Mike Shanahan was an ass (my distant impression of him, not based on any personal interaction) and figured we'd have the anti-Gibbs in terms of personality, caring for his staff, etc.

From what I've heard it's quite the opposite actually. He's no Gibbs (who is) but let's not kid ourselves, you have your idea of who he is and unless I personally introduce you to him and have you sit down and spend time with him, you're not going to change your mind

To be fair I've heard Elway is an arrogant SOB too, though it sounds like EVERYBODY there is bought in to his leadership lock stock and barrel. Looking at the current landscape, he's very likely to get another SB ring too.

[ashvirtually]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

By the same token, how many people would be slamming Shanahan if he had benched Griffin, and Cousins had lost us the game. RGIII would be whining about being benched, saying he wanted to stay in the game to win it for the team, but he had to do what coach said. Then Shanahan's getting slammed for creating a quarterback controversy.

Yep.

For Gaea's sake, people, this isn't black and white. From everything that's come to light, it's apparent Robert shares some blame, however small, in all of this, too. Blame his warrior spirit, as I am doing because he is FEARLESS, but he does have fault here.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

By the same token, how many people would be slamming Shanahan if he had benched Griffin, and Cousins had lost us the game. RGIII would be whining about being benched, saying he wanted to stay in the game to win it for the team, but he had to do what coach said. Then Shanahan's getting slammed for creating a quarterback controversy.

That's what you do as a leader, take the heat for making the right call.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Yes!

Mil- You rarely participate in any active discussions, but rather starts your own "look at me" threads that are often not necessary

You deserve grief for your "realistic" post because it was filled with so much flawed analysis.

You need to participate more in the active forums. Because right now most people see that you've started a new thread and-even if it's a legit discussion like this one-think "crap, here we go again. Another milellie thread"

Word.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by The Goat

To be fair I've heard Elway is an arrogant SOB too, though it sounds like EVERYBODY there is bought in to his leadership lock stock and barrel. Looking at the current landscape, he's very likely to get another SB ring too.

I doubt there is a bad word ever uttered about Elway there. Probably a city ordanance against it.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by The Goat

To be fair I've heard Elway is an arrogant SOB too, though it sounds like EVERYBODY there is bought in to his leadership lock stock and barrel. Looking at the current landscape, he's very likely to get another SB ring too.

Yeah I was just gonna say I've heard some no so great things about Elway. Plus I bumped into him at the HOF in 2008 and he blew off everyone who was asking him for an autograph and kinda came off like a jerk.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by The Goat

That's what you do as a leader, take the heat for making the right call.

Sometimes leaders make wrong decisions, and they take heat for that too.

[ashvirtually]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Sometimes leaders make wrong decisions, and they take heat for that too.

Bingo.

Which he has all but said it was.

[Meks]

Most shocking to me was that they continued to call running plays or even giving him tge option to run it himself