Redskins 2013 Salary Cap Status

[SkinzWin]

CrazyCanuck, this is your area of expertise. Set the record straight?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

Either that's not true or your math is wrong. Cap for this year is in the low 120's. I think I heard $122 mil.

edit:

Franchise tag numbers tentatively set; 2013 cap near $121M - NFL.com

He said that he was using hypothetical numbers that made the math example easier. He was not speaking to the specifics of this year.

Originally Posted by Skinzman

Dont come over to this section much and I realize that this is a week late. But the NFL cant lower the salary cap on the NFLPA, it is done by a formula that has been negotiated between the two. The salary cap was going down automatically due to the new CBA. What happened was the player percent of money went down due to the CBA having a smaller cut for the players. (Players money went from something like a 56% to 50% of overall money. Not sure of exact numbers).

IE.. These numbers arent real, just using easier than the real numbers to show the example. I also doubt the formula is this simple, im only using the basics of it.

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[CrazyCanuck]

The old CBA numbers (from http://www.thewarpath.net/salary-cap...cap-101-a.html):

What is the salary cap?
- The salary cap is the max amount that NFL teams can spend on their players in a given year. In basic terms, the salary cap is set at 58% of total league revenues (TLR). To calculate the salary cap for an individual team the calculation would be: (TLR * 0.58) / 32 (teams). The salary cap for 2008 is $116M per team.

Is there a minimum salary cap?
- Yes. Each team must spend at least 85% of the salary cap on its players. This ensures that the players always receive at least 50% of the total revenue pie. So depending on how thrifty the owners are, the players will receive between 50% and 58% of total league revenues in any given year.

Here's a link to the major economic changes in the new CBA:

http://ht.cdn.turner.com/si/images/2..._Summary_7.pdf

The numbers are a little confusing, have to read through more but at first glance it seems like the 58%/50% numbers from the old CBA above have been changed to 55%/47%. Also the 85% min cap has been raised to 89%. Seems like the players are getting a smaller piece of a bigger pie, with some new benefits thrown in.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

He said that he was using hypothetical numbers that made the math example easier. He was not speaking to the specifics of this year.

I conveniently missed that very important sentence. My bad. I don't think the NFLPA has been doing the players much good recently. Okay reduction in % players get, okay cap penalties on redskins and cowboys in an "uncapped year". D Smith must make the the players want Gene back badly.

[KERRAKPO9198]

Good information in here.

[Schneed10]

With the news that the 2013 salary cap is coming in at $123M instead of the expected $121M, the Redskins effectively pick up $2.0M in cap space. The numbers below have been updated to reflect that.

Also, upon further reflection, I'm revising the anticipated cost of resigning Fred Davis. Coming off a major injury like that, and given that he's only had one really impressive season, he shouldn't command a contract that would generate a $5M cap hit ($4.5 once net of the replacement) in year 1 of the contract. I'll go with $2.5M hit in year 1. That could still give him a hefty payday with solid guarantees, but it won't pay him at the pro bowl level like I had him at.

Information can always improve. All figures presented in millions.

2013 Redskins Cap Room (Overage): ($3.1)

Roster Cuts or Restructures:
DeAngelo Hall $7.5
Santana Moss $3.7
London Fletcher (retirement?) $2.7
Josh Wilson $3.2
Jamaal Brown $0.2
Adam Carriker $2.2
Maximum Cap Space Created through Cuts or Restructures: $19.5

Priority Resignings/Replacements:
Fred Davis or similar TE: ($2.5)
Kory Lichtensteiger: ($2.5)
Darrel Young: ($1.0)
Logan Paulsen: ($0.6)
Lorenzo Alexander: ($1.8)
Nick Sundberg or similar LS: ($0.3)
Rob Jackson: ($1.6)
Sav Rocca or similar P: ($0.4)
Tyler Polumbus: ($1.1)
Cap Space Required for Resignings/Replacements ($11.8)

Rookie Pool Impact ($0.5)

Anticipated Cap Space Available for Free Agency: $4.1

[Schneed10]

I couldn't update the OP in this thread. Mods, what do you think is better? Is it better to have the OP continuously updated to reflect the latest? In that case, you lose the trail of changes along the way as I make them.

Or is it better to keep the trail, and just have me add posts at the end like this when I make a change? You keep the trail, but users have to know to search for the latest throughout the thread.

I leave the decision how to handle in your capable hands.

[That Guy]

thanks for the update. i think getting davis back makes the most sense. he's been here, he's better than the other options in FA/draft and he's not a whole lot more in year one than a replacement (cap wise).

I'd be okay with hall, moss, and fletcher walking. it sucks, but an 18M hit isn't minor. if we can't get anything back there'll be a few hard choices this season.

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

With the news that the 2013 salary cap is coming in at $123M instead of the expected $121M, the Redskins effectively pick up $2.0M in cap space. The numbers below have been updated to reflect that.

Also, upon further reflection, I'm revising the anticipated cost of resigning Fred Davis. Coming off a major injury like that, and given that he's only had one really impressive season, he shouldn't command a contract that would generate a $5M cap hit ($4.5 once net of the replacement) in year 1 of the contract. I'll go with $2.5M hit in year 1. That could still give him a hefty payday with solid guarantees, but it won't pay him at the pro bowl level like I had him at.

Information can always improve. All figures presented in millions.

2013 Redskins Cap Room (Overage): ($3.1)

Roster Cuts or Restructures:
DeAngelo Hall $7.5
Santana Moss $3.7
London Fletcher (retirement?) $2.7
Josh Wilson $3.2
Jamaal Brown $0.2
Adam Carriker $2.2
Maximum Cap Space Created through Cuts or Restructures: $19.5

Priority Resignings/Replacements:
Fred Davis or similar TE: ($2.5)
Kory Lichtensteiger: ($2.5)
Darrel Young: ($1.0)
Logan Paulsen: ($0.6)
Lorenzo Alexander: ($1.8)
Nick Sundberg or similar LS: ($0.3)
Rob Jackson: ($1.6)
Sav Rocca or similar P: ($0.4)
Tyler Polumbus: ($1.1)
Cap Space Required for Resignings/Replacements ($11.8)

Rookie Pool Impact ($0.5)

Anticipated Cap Space Available for Free Agency: $4.1

Hmm...how is it possible to replace 2 starting CB (Hall + Wilson) for 4.1M?
I just don't see how this would work. We need starting CBs more than a starting TE or LG..I just don't understand how we can keep Wilson and replace/restructure Hall for 4.1M.

PS...great work at usual!

[CultBrennan59]

So a few weeks ago I posted that Jammal Brown had been cut, per ESPN 980. I went to Redskins.com, and he's still listed on the team.

So to any insider or cap person on this site, can you tell me whats the deal with this guy and is he counting to our salary cap right now and/or is he going to help our cap if cut or hurt it?

[NYCskinfan82]

I beleive cuts aren't official until March 12th.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

Hmm...how is it possible to replace 2 starting CB (Hall + Wilson) for 4.1M?
I just don't see how this would work. We need starting CBs more than a starting TE or LG..I just don't understand how we can keep Wilson and replace/restructure Hall for 4.1M.

PS...great work at usual!

You're misreading me. I'm saying that after making all the moves I listed, they'd have $4.1M in cap space, including restructures of D Hall and J Wilson (that first section is not necessarily cuts).

[CrazyCanuck]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I couldn't update the OP in this thread. Mods, what do you think is better? Is it better to have the OP continuously updated to reflect the latest? In that case, you lose the trail of changes along the way as I make them.

Or is it better to keep the trail, and just have me add posts at the end like this when I make a change? You keep the trail, but users have to know to search for the latest throughout the thread.

I leave the decision how to handle in your capable hands.

I updated the original post with your latest March 2 update. I can do this in the future as well.

I think it's better this way, otherwise everyone has to keep quoting your latest update and the thread gets long. This way everyone can check the first post for latest updates, and make comments in the thread to discuss further.

Great work as always Schneed.

[diehardskin2982]

Could we extend Josh Morgan? Lower his cap number this year then add another year on his contract...

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

I would be for giving him some more gaurnteed jack to get his number down, and keep him for a couple more years.