Hard Decisions: The solution to the $18MM offseason puzzle

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

I agree but how will you know whether he steps up BEFORE losing Moss.

You gotta believe!!

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

I agree but how will you know whether he steps up BEFORE losing Moss.

Hank looked pretty good in limited action last year. If he can fix his biggest problem - the dropsies - he could make us forget about Moss quickly.

Also don't forget about Aldrick Robinson. It should be expected that by September either Hank or Robinson will have developed to the point where they would beat out Moss anyway. Then we have Garcon - Morgan - Hankerson - Robinson as our 4 wideouts. In this scenario, paying Moss to be #5 makes little sense for several reasons.

I am not a Santana hater. I'm just trying to be realistic.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Hank looked pretty good in limited action last year. If he can fix his biggest problem - the dropsies - he could make us forget about Moss quickly.

Also don't forget about Aldrick Robinson. It should be expected that by September either Hank or Robinson will have developed to the point where they would beat out Moss anyway. Then we have Garcon - Morgan - Hankerson - Robinson as our 4 wideouts. In this scenario, paying Moss to be #5 makes little sense for several reasons.

I am not a Santana hater. I'm just trying to be realistic.

He's more realistic to replace Moss in the slot. Hank is an outside WR.

[Meks]

Originally Posted by Lotus

If Hankerson steps up, the loss of Moss is not so critical.

...... a taller slower hankerson, improved or not can't fill Moss' position and what he specifically does for the wr corps

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Meks

...... a taller slower hankerson, improved or not can't fill Moss' position and what he specifically does for the wr corps

Actually Hank ran in the 4.4's at his combine. He likely is faster than Moss right now, given Moss' age.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Actually Hank ran in the 4.4's at his combine. He likely is faster than Moss right now, given Moss' age.

yeah but moss is the better wr. even at his old age (in football years) moss is way shiftier, quicker and runs better routes. bottom line is moss can play the slot better than hank. to me, hank has been a disappointment.

[warriorzpath]

I think Shanahan tried to replace Moss with the younger Eddie Royal last offseason, but obviously that didn't work out. I don't think theres a wideout that can equal his production in fa this year.

[30gut]

CUTS:
Meriweather
Brown
Kory Lichtensteiger
Adam Carriker

Projected Savings - $12.7+? million

Restructuring:Hall, Moss
Projected Savings - $3+? million

Retiring:
none

Total Cap Room (adding the $4 million we are over): $18? million



Redskins free agents who re-sign:
Kehl
Polumbus
Jackson
Alexander
D. Young

Total spent - $7.5 million


Redskins un-restricted free agents who we tender:
Baker
Paulsen

Total spent - $2 million


Total left for free agents and draft picks: $16.5 million


Free Agent Signings:
Corey Lynch 3 year 3-4 ?
Total - the above million

Money left to sign draft picks and un-drafted free agents: $7.5 million

2nd: David Amerson CB
3rd: TJ McDonald FS
4th: John Bostic ILB
5th: Duke Williams FS
5th: Josh Boyce WR
6th: Cierre Wood RB
7th: Colby Cameron QB

UDFA: Vinton Painter OT

[Jayroc24]

I might be in the minority, but if we do not see any cap relief I think we have to go young and make cuts where we have too. Here is my moves.

1. Cut Santana Moss, we love to have him but the cap number is too big. I hope Robinson or Hankerson can fill those shoes.

2. Keep Kory L., with RG3 getting hit we have to keep a sound line

3. RT.... I dont know, I thought Polumbus did a good job, but could use an upgrade draft maybe... we wont know until April. We have no cap to find a premier RT through free agency

4. Cut or restructure D Hall. I actually thought he played great the second half of the season, but the cap hit is huge!

5. I think Fletcher has to go, we just cant afford him, the defense might have to suffer this year just to make things work.

6. I have said before I would love to keep F Davis, just dont see it unless he is willing to take less this year and more next year (maybe lock in next year salary???)

7.I think Lorenzo is gone, great while he was here, but a luxury we can not afford this year.

8.Banks..... really- see ya!

9.Golston is gone- there are several these 2nd to 3rd teir players that need to go due to cap hit vs. the value

10.Find away to keep Young, He does a great job for us, the cap to value has to be there.

11. I would cut Royster, flashes at times, way too inconsistent

12. Helu....... He can't stay healty, one blip at training camp he is gone

13. Find a scat back in the draft, speed and hands

14.Resign Paulsen at a cap freindly price, he has to understand he is not
Jason Witten.

15. If F Davis is not resigned, we have to find another TE in draft

16.Love to keep R Jackson, just dont see the money to do so. I think alot of teams that have cap will be after him. Another Antonio Pierce situation- this time due to the cap

If these moves are made the Defense will suffer the most, however are hands are tied behind our back. At all cost protect our QB's!!!!! The GM has tough choices to make, just a thought....where would we be if we never signed Haynesworth..............

[Chico23231]

Mind blowing people want to restructure and keep Hall. 7.5 off the books is a no brainer, should be the first cut

[Jayroc24]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Mind blowing people want to restructure and keep Hall. 7.5 off the books is a no brainer, should be the first cut

Chico, while I agree that the 7.5 is a very large number, the second half of the season the defense really came around, I think the corners helped with that.
Do you feel we are better off with out him? If they do cut him, who is up? Grffin?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Jayroc24

Chico, while I agree that the 7.5 is a very large number, the second half of the season the defense really came around, I think the corners helped with that.
Do you feel we are better off with out him? If they do cut him, who is up? Grffin?

I wasnt criticizing directly you and i agree he played better down the stretch.

I certainly feel we are better off without him next year. If we cut 7.5 mil, I guarentee we can bring someone in next year at his spot for 3.5 mil and that player will perform better.

The conerback position is deep in FA and the draft. Id say with address it with both. Poyer and Toler would be a good start.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I wasnt criticizing directly you and i agree he played better down the stretch.

I certainly feel we are better off without him next year. If we cut 7.5 mil, I guarentee we can bring someone in next year at his spot for 3.5 mil and that player will perform better.

The conerback position is deep in FA and the draft. Id say with address it with both. Poyer and Toler would be a good start.

Poyer is dropping in the draft rankings so we could definitely get him.

[Jayroc24]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I wasnt criticizing directly you and i agree he played better down the stretch.

I certainly feel we are better off without him next year. If we cut 7.5 mil, I guarentee we can bring someone in next year at his spot for 3.5 mil and that player will perform better.

The conerback position is deep in FA and the draft. Id say with address it with both. Poyer and Toler would be a good start.

Didn't take it as such..... At the end of the day I want BA to bolster the O line at all cost, and hope we find some hidden gems in draft. Just dont see alot of possibilities in FA this year for us with our current cap. Every year second/third year players who did not contribute much their first year have a coming out party. Let us hope we have a few defensive backs that do that this year.

[SOUL-SKINS]

@Rich_TandlerCSN: The #Redskins will be able to clear about $20 million in cap space with 6 restructures, and 1 pay cut. Post coming soon.