Let's face it. Our WRs are set...

[offiss]

BossHog, It's more likely for us to draft a WR in the later rounds who's willing to be the return man and do the dirty work on special teams. Our draft priorities should reflect need

Return man????????? We have how many???????

Return man is the last thing we need in this upcoming draft.

Moss, Brown, Morton, as well as Bett's and Thrash, we must lead the NFL in return men.

[CRT3]

Originally Posted by offiss

Return man????????? We have how many???????

Return man is the last thing we need in this upcoming draft.

Moss, Brown, Morton, as well as Bett's and Thrash, we must lead the NFL in return men.

Hey we agree on somthing. The world is becomming a bette place.

[SKINZ_DOMIN8]

Originally Posted by HermosaBeach Skin Fan

You're absolutely right. We're WAY worse off than we would have been. I think Moss is better than Gardner (we should have drafted him initially), but he has durability problems. Coles was good, but obviously unhappy. SO WHAT! We're taking a 9million dollar cap hit because the guy wasn't happy??!!! Lot's of people aren't happy at work. You make a commitment, you should stick it out. We didn't have the cap room to accomidate him and it was stupid to trade him. Even if we didn't trade him, we could have had cap room to pick up a guy through FA had he decided to sit.

My thought: We're set at QB, stick with Ramsey. We're GREAT at RB, Portis is going to be good for a long time. Our OL is good, no needs there. Our WRs STINK. That's by far the deficiency in our offense. Look at teams like the Rams, Even the Eagles with Owens, the Vikings (who's defense sucks), they all have good WRs. You need a good passing game to open up the run game. You become one dimensional, you can't do anything. Our defense is good enough; the glaring needs are at WR, start there.

What has Ramsey acutally proven????????? Nothing.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS ﺶ

This has probably been addressed somewhere in this thread, I'm just too lazy to look for it, but what about Rod Gardner?

I know the plan is to trade him, but let's just say they don't. Suppose they don't get the right offer and decide ultimately to just hold onto him. Do you bury him at the bottom of the depth chart and just let him walk next offseason? Do you make him a #1 or 2 and showcase his value possibly for a midseason trade? Clearly you wouldn't draft a receiver then, right?

And lest you think it's a lock that RG won't be here come September, from Saturday's Washington Post:

"This week, Coach Joe Gibbs said Washington is willing to keep Gardner if the club isn't satisfied with the return. And according to sources familiar with the situation, Gardner hasn't yet been dealt partly because Washington has been choosy about offers."

I say if they can't find a decent #3 pick then he should be allowed to compete for a starting job just like everyone else. I definitely wouldn't bury him on the depth chart.

Actually I'd be kinda interested to see how Gardner plays in a contract year.

[SKINZ_DOMIN8]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I say if they can't find a decent #3 pick then he should be allowed to compete for a starting job just like everyone else. I definitely wouldn't bury him on the depth chart.

Actually I'd be kinda interested to see how Gardner plays in a contract year.

How he would play? Does the last 4 seasons remind you of anything?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SKINZ_DOMIN8

How he would play? Does the last 4 seasons remind you of anything?

If he's playing for a big money contract who knows, maybe he would hold on to some of those drops. You never know how a guy will play when he's playing for a big payraise. Some guys have career years.

[SKINZ_DOMIN8]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

If he's playing for a big money contract who knows, maybe he would hold on to some of those drops. You never know how a guy will play when he's playing for a big payraise. Some guys have career years.

The bottom line is TRUE LONGTIME REDSKINS FANS like myself don't want garbage like Rod Gardner on the team.

When was the last time he broke a tackle for a long gain? Not this past season.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SKINZ_DOMIN8

The bottom line is TRUE LONGTIME REDSKINS FANS like myself don't want garbage like Rod Gardner on the team.

When was the last time he broke a tackle for a long gain? Not this past season.

wow, sorry I wasn't aware I was in the presence of a TRUE LONGTIME REDSKINS FAN.

I guess if I'm considering the possibilities of what happens if we can't find good value for him in a trade I'm not quite on the same level as a TRUE LONGTIME REDSKINS FAN.

LOL

[SKINZ_DOMIN8]

That's my point you just made for me. Thank you. Garbage in garbage out. Cut him.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SKINZ_DOMIN8

That's my point you just made for me. Thank you. Garbage in garbage out. Cut him.

zackmills?

[Daseal]

When was the last time he broke a tackle for a long gain? Not this past season.

How many times did anyone last year? Very few. Gardner made some huge catches for us, he's definitely better than any WR on our roster right now. He can be a 1000yard #1 receiver. He's shown that.

[Longtimefan]

This time last year everyone was talking about how bad our Defense was going to be. No Tackles, no DE (Rusher) Defense was our strongest suite. I said the Defense would be just fine with what we had, "No Miracle"

I'm going to say this year our WR are going to be just fine because I'm not going to compare what our new additions did with their previous teams. However, viewing the stats of both Moss and Patten the average YPC is better than anything we had last year. Eighteen yards per catch is far better than average, and while neither of them caught 90 balls like Coles did think what their total yards would look like if they did.

Plus, just their presence on the field will make life much more bearable for Portis. The Defense has to respect that speed, and getting that 8th man out the box will make a tremendous difference. Also drafting a Receiver at #9, even one of MW caliber commands a huge signing bonus and considerable $$ we're up against the cap. Many $$ already invested in the WR position.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

zackmills?

That's what I was thinking!

Originally Posted by Daesel

Gardner made some huge catches for us, he's definitely better than any WR on our roster right now. He can be a 1000yard #1 receiver. He's shown that.

When has he shown that? He had one 1,000 yard season (the same number as Moss) in '02.. He is WAY too inconsistent to be a #1 receiver. He makes the spectacular catches you'd expect from a #1 but he also drops passes and false starts like you'd expect from a right tackle..

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

This time last year everyone was talking about how bad our Defense was going to be. No Tackles, no DE (Rusher) Defense was our strongest suite. I said the Defense would be just fine with what we had, "No Miracle"

I'm going to say this year our WR are going to be just fine because I'm not going to compare what our new additions did with their previous teams. However, viewing the stats of both Moss and Patten the average YPC is better than anything we had last year. Eighteen yards per catch is far better than average, and while neither of them caught 90 balls like Coles did think what their total yards would look like if they did.

Plus, just their presence on the field will make life much more bearable for Portis. The Defense has to respect that speed, and getting that 8th man out the box will make a tremendous difference. Also drafting a Receiver at #9, even one of MW caliber commands a huge signing bonus and considerable $$ we're up against the cap. Many $$ already invested in the WR position.

only now they'll be covered by #1 CBs not 2s, 3s, and safeties...

[SKINZ_DOMIN8]

Originally Posted by Daseal

How many times did anyone last year? Very few. Gardner made some huge catches for us, he's definitely better than any WR on our roster right now. He can be a 1000yard #1 receiver. He's shown that.

Are you on drugs? Gardner better than Patten and/or Moss??????????

Seriously, are you on drugs or not???????