All things offseason discussion part II

[Chico23231]

I know Jon Gruden was a big Flowers fan. He raved about him for an entire monday game I watched. Wonder if he will talk to his brother

[mooby]

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[ethat001]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I think signing Flowers this year would be a challenge. It could be done though. They have about $2M in space currently and could free some by booting Stephen Bowen or Leonard Hankerson or Kedric Golston or Santana Moss, or a few other options. But I don't think they'd be keen on doing that just yet, not sure how much depth they feel like they can give up.

I admittedly have no clue what kind of deal Flowers would garner. I imagine it won't be small, he's coming off a pro-bowl appearance.

I would welcome Flowers and he could certainly make our team immediately more competitive -- on paper. It's all talk right now in the offseason, but IF the offense lives up to the hype, IF our D-line is better, and IF our safeties are decent / not too old ---> another pro bowl corner could be what could have us keep up with the top teams late in the season.

But, I worry about Andy Reid, whenever we take his scraps. He's been shown to have a good eye for aged veterans and screwed us several times in the past.

[SFREDSKIN]

Flowers is only 28.

[CrustyRedskin]

Chuck Noll passed away. Rip class act.

[budw38]

R.I.P. Coach Noll . Y! SPORTS

[Gary84Clark]

Rip

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I know Jon Gruden was a big Flowers fan. He raved about him for an entire monday game I watched. Wonder if he will talk to his brother

I love Gruden but it seems exponentially harder to find a player he doesn't like.

Fake Al Davis
‏@VeryFakeAlDavis
Gruden has all the answers, until you ask him to play F/M/K with Josh Johnson, John Beck and Rich Gannon
10:39 PM - 25 Aug 2011

For our less hip posters FMK stands for *$##, Mary, Kill.

From another forum (2010) Jon Gruden is obnoxious - Page 2

This is 100% accurate.

Anyone see Gruden's 'QB Kamp' special on ESPN last spring before the draft? He was critical, harsh, and honest with all the rookie QB's. Really interesting to watch.

Then I turn on MNF and he sounds like a junior varsity cheerleader. Every sentence starts with "Boy, I really like (name of player, defensive unit, coach)". It's amazing how American broadcast sports are under the impression that announcers can't be honest and objective. You don't get this anywhere else in the world, outside of N. Korea

Ironically enough time has shown that his interest in actually returning to coaching doesn't have nearly enough steam to get him out of the booth but I remember especially when he started that the knock on Gruden as an announcer was he never seemed to say anything bad about anyone on MNF. Sure he would go off on mistakes but then he would come back and talk about how players who made said mistakes were great football players.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

I love Gruden but it seems exponentially harder to find a player he doesn't like.
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John Madden was no different. He did the exact same thing that Jon does.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

John Madden was no different. He did the exact same thing that Jon does.

Must be in the (first) name. Ironically though part of the reason I love Jon Gruden, at least as a coach was in behind the scenes footage he would rarely hesitate to get onto his guys but he always seemed to make sure they knew that he believed in them. That rare type of leader that can somehow allow you to be relaxed and keep you on your toes.


Announcer wise he really is top notched. For me when he's breaking down actual football plays and concepts he brings everything you get with someone like Jaworski but with a lot more enthusiasm.

And to be fair he's nowhere near as 'kind' as he was when he first got in the booth. Heck just as recently as the draft he seemed more then willing to strongly disagree with picks. Ray Lewis on the other hand....lol.....very good football breakdowns, way to many good things to say about everyone.

[That Guy]

that first round draft coverage was the worst thing ever. ray and boom didn't do their homework and spent the entire night quipping generic platitudes. it was painful/horrible.

however, the next day they decided to go with people who actually had at least half a clue as to what they were talking about. i don't know why they didn't start with them, they were soooo much better.

[irish]

Originally Posted by CrustyRedskin

Chuck Noll passed away. Rip class act.

Chuck Noll is the most under-rated coach in NFL history.

[CrustyRedskin]

Originally Posted by irish

Chuck Noll is the most under-rated coach in NFL history.

Meh I'd go with Bud Grant or Georgea Allen on that one. Chuck Noll was the DC for Shula on the Dolphin team that got beat by the Namath/ Jets. I didn't know that.

[irish]

Originally Posted by CrustyRedskin

Meh I'd go with Bud Grant or Georgea Allen on that one. Chuck Noll was the DC for Shula on the Dolphin team that got beat by the Namath/ Jets. I didn't know that.

Noll beat Grant in the one game they played against each other that really mattered. Grant and Allen never won a SB while Noll turned around a team that was a total joke into a 4x SB winner.

[SirLK26]

Chuck Noll won those 4 SBs with Bradshaw at QB...