Bucs Postgame Thread

[Hijinx]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...032315004.html

This guy has no *#$@ brains. You RG3 supporters are absolutely delusional if you think RG3 will ever "develop" into an elite QB. He just doesn't have the right mindset, for starters. Maybe he can put out another facebook post about "haters".

[Chico23231]

where are the mods?

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

where are the mods?

They are off buying Montreal Alouettes jerseys.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Guys, think about this for a second. There have only been three names on the offensive line in the past 15 years that have stood out to me. Jon Jansen, Chris Samuels, and Trent Williams. So, three guys in the last 15 years that you could always count on being pretty solid up front.

That tells me the problem is the offensive line has been largely ignored for the entire time Snyder has owned the team (maybe even before then.) Outside of those three guys, the offensive line hasn't been much to write home about.

Ignored how? You mean they're drafting the wrong linemen?

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Ignored how? You mean they're drafting the wrong linemen?

I agree with skinsguy. After drafting Jansen #2 in 1999 and Samuels #1 in 2000, Trent Williams is the ONLY offensive lineman drafted in rounds one or two since. In 14 years. Think about that.

[Chico23231]

We been drafting Olinemen...may be the wrong ones or piss poor coaching. I think its a combo of both. Still shaking my head at the Lauvao signing. He's made no improvemenat at his position.

[JoeRedskin]

Reading between the lines in some of Keim's and other local media posts - the team is and, in recent history, has been about "We are talented enough to win" instead of "regardless of talent, winning requires hard work and consistent attention to detail." The locals talk of a loose team that jokes around after losses, dances to music while waiting to run drills, and, generally, seems to believe winning requires only some talented players.

You want to stop making mental mistakes? Pay attention, practice harder. While some rare players are talented enough to be the exception (and I would suggest none are on the current Skins team), the "you play like you practice" rule is applicable to everyone at this level. Not sure the current players believe that.

I thought one of the positive things Shanny brought to the team was a step away from the sense of entitlement and the culture of "we are good enough." Apparently, I was wrong.

Hey Redskins - You are not good enough. You haven't been good enough. AND you won't be good enough until you consistently practice like you aren't good enough!

[Chico23231]

Outside of Trent Williams and Kory L at center we got nobody on the Oline worth a shit.

[Avinash_Tyagi]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...032315004.html

Granted it was a bit unleaderlike to call out his team, but he's got a point though

This is a team that sucks across the board

for all the talk of talent and skill on this team, it hasn't shown it, and it can't all be put at the feet of one guy (heck the team lost a bunch of games while he was out)

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Avinash_Tyagi

Granted it was a bit unleaderlike to call out his team, but he's got a point though

This is a team that sucks across the board

for all the talk of talent and skill on this team, it hasn't shown it, and it can't all be put at the feet of one guy (heck the team lost a bunch of games while he was out)

Then there's more from DeSean:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...162943745.html

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Avinash_Tyagi

Granted it was a bit unleaderlike to call out his team, but he's got a point though

This is a team that sucks across the board

for all the talk of talent and skill on this team, it hasn't shown it, and it can't all be put at the feet of one guy (heck the team lost a bunch of games while he was out)

Reading the quotes of the presser, to me it looks like RG3 said "we all suck". He probably could've chosen better words, but whatever.

Outside of D. Jax and Tress Way, no one on this team has played well.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Then there's more from DeSean:



http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...162943745.html

Hope we see some of the turds in the locker room flushed this offseason. Clearly not everyone is on the same page. When DJ is calling guys out that's not good at all.

[Evilgrin]

The same mental mistakes happened under Shanahan. Picking and then developing players is something we don't do well if at all.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

I agree with skinsguy. After drafting Jansen #2 in 1999 and Samuels #1 in 2000, Trent Williams is the ONLY offensive lineman drafted in rounds one or two since. In 14 years. Think about that.

Not like we were stocking up on OL in the first two rounds before that though

[JoeRedskin]

As to Oline, sure, we have only a couple guys in the 1st or 2nd round, but we have drafted several in the 3rd and 4th and more in the 6th and 7th. If you look around the league, lots of good, solid lines have guys who were drafted in later rounds or were brought in as UFA's.

Other than a stretch under Vinny, we have consistently brought in linemen. If you constantly bring in solid developmental guys, the odds are that you will get some good starters along the way and continue to develop depth.

The plan is not inherently flawed. The execution has been.