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Old 03-30-2004, 01:47 PM   #61
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We can't argue with HOF Coach Gibbs!

We can't argue with HOF Coach Gibbs!

The only downside to this is the other team is the iggles!

Thrash is not trash, as some have said. I see him as the 3rd or 4th option, and as a contributor on ST. Not bad for an '05 5th rounder!

There are apparently quite a few posters in here that do not subscribe to the cousinvinnie/LDS combo braintrust who believe that a proven player is worth far more than a draft pick, or a future draft pick.

My thought is, were we really better off last year or the year before with all of the FA signees? Or with all of the RFAs we got at the expense of most of our 2003 Draft? Or was all of the failure due to OBC?

I say it was the later! Blame it all on Ole Ball Coach! Please!

We cannot be totally enamorred by the Draft, as much as we really want to be! We have to see why the FO is doing what it is doing. It is to a.) Satisfy an Owner who wants to win at all costs. b.) Satisfy a HOF Coach who wants to win at all cost with players with Character, and build the Redskin Family atmosphere!

This is not a bad thing! Just, different!

Can't we just all get along?

On another thought: Many said HOF Coach Gibbs would potentially struggle with the present day NFL and FA! I say he has proven them wrong already! He improved the team greatly the moment he signed!
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Old 03-30-2004, 01:52 PM   #62
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Feeling fine about this move

Good special teamer, vet WR, and a positive lockerroom presence and hard worker. Plus he has ties to the DC area (I think he lives here). Sounds like a Gibbs guy to me.

We'll see about trades/picks, etc, but I feel fine about this either way. Gibbs said he was going to bring in Redskin guys, and that he'd make special teams a priority. Again, we should take him at his word.

Plus, and someone mentioned this as a joke, but he knows Reids system inside out. That can't hurt our scouting.
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Old 03-30-2004, 01:57 PM   #63
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This is probably one of the dumbest moves I have ever seen. It is cleary evident now that Joe Gibbs has no idea what he's doing in terms for building a team. I said it before and I'll say it again WE NEED A GM. Here we go again pissing away all are draft picks. James Trash, aren't we already loaded at reciever. Yes. And can't we draft a guy who is solid on special teams. Yes. I would never questions Gibb's ability to coach. He is the best of all time. But this is just dumb. And we know Synder can't say no to Gibbs.

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Old 03-30-2004, 02:03 PM   #64
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This is likely the end of Rod Gardner's career as a redskin. I suspect the skins will look to deal him soon.
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Old 03-30-2004, 03:18 PM   #65
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Look, all of this offseason has been filled with surprises and even more surprises, all of them good. I don't know where this is going, but I put my trust in a proven system. Is that too much to ask? I do not think so. Thrash, Swayne and everyone else has been brought in for a reason. Joe Gibbs knows that reason. The rest of the Redskin's coaching staff knows that reason. We the fan do not know what the reason is as yet, but we should trust. Trust our coach. Trust his staff. Trust the front office. Basically trust everyone involved in the entire operation. We should trust that they know what they are doing. O ye of little faith, the chosen one has returned. Put faith in him. He will deliver.
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Old 03-30-2004, 03:21 PM   #66
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are the people who are questioning why we got Thrash the same people who were wondering what we were going to do when we lost Pat Johnson?????
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Old 03-30-2004, 03:51 PM   #67
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We'll see what happens. Thrash may never be used as a wide receiver and will probably be a special teamer.

I think Gibbs will keep Gardner,and use him like Brian Mitchel. Gardner does have two (shoudl be three) touchdown passes... I wouldnt be surprised if Gibbs gets him the ball more and lets him air it out. Gibbs has always had a bunch of trick plays.
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Old 03-30-2004, 03:52 PM   #68
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This is probably one of the dumbest moves I have ever seen. It is cleary evident now that Joe Gibbs has no idea what he's doing in terms for building a team. I said it before and I'll say it again WE NEED A GM. Here we go again pissing away all are draft picks. James Trash, aren't we already loaded at reciever. Yes. And can't we draft a guy who is solid on special teams. Yes. I would never questions Gibb's ability to coach. He is the best of all time. But this is just dumb. And we know Synder can't say no to Gibbs.

I disagree, we gave up nothing to get him a 5th next year big deal, this move paves the way to deal gardner and obtain more pick's, perhap's we are looking to package up both gardner and thrash with a pick and send them some where for pick's, don't judge this matter till you see the whole picture, remember brian johnson.
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Old 03-30-2004, 03:59 PM   #69
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I love it, who thought you could only do stuff liek this when you are playin Madden. Who hasnt signed players just to trade them in the game before?!? I think Snyder is a hardcore Madden fan and uses that as a basis to run his team...
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Old 03-30-2004, 05:14 PM   #70
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I'm with Daseal man...we definitely should give Cloman a shot! The guys a beast, and at 6' 3" 215 pounds of muscle..he's tough, maybe not as fast as the speedsters we have, but can catch anything thrown to him..(unlike Russell)..oh yeah, why is Russell still in Washington???
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Old 03-30-2004, 05:56 PM   #71
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He'll get a chance under Gibbs, everyone will have their chance to prove themselves to him. I trust Gibbs will keep and play the best players for his system.
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Old 03-30-2004, 09:22 PM   #72
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why?

Whatever happened to trying to build a team through the draft? I think we need to get some foundational players through the draft instead of bringing in recycled players via trades (a la James Thrash).
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Old 03-30-2004, 09:33 PM   #73
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First of all, I never thought Thrash should have left Washington and I'm estatic to have him back. As for Gardener, I didn't hear anything about him from anyone during mini camp but I'm under the impression he practiced. Maybe that means Gibbs was not impressed with his film and futher disliked Gardener for not making plays in mini camp. In previous drafts teams have tried to trade for Gardener and I know the Redskins were offered a low first for him.
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Old 03-30-2004, 09:45 PM   #74
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OaklandSkinz;

You wanted to know why Russell is still in Washington.

Two words: Raw ... speed.

He has bad hands - I mean really bad hands - but he can flat-out fly. And so the coaching staff wants to be sure that they can't teach him how to catch a football reliably before they let him go.

My guess is that the coaches will eventually give up on him because he has had bad hands in college and in his developmental years in the NFL. But these are new coaches; and if they see the speed he brings to the line of scrimmage, they have to want to keep him around to see if they can work a bit of "magic" with him.

He might just be the fastest man in the NFL; if not, he is in the top 5!
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Old 03-30-2004, 10:45 PM   #75
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Patrick Johnson was just as fast if not faster, but was never utilized for his speed. Of course I cant coutn how many times I saw Johnson be the first to hit a guy on special teams because of how fast he got down the field. Perhaps Russel could be a great special teamer for us.
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