Redskins 2019 PRE Draft thread

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

It's been rumored that Kingsbury wants Murray so we will see

Yeah, I saw that too. But the only incentive Kingsbury would have for trading Rosen is a trade that blows him away. If he can get Murray and get another pick in the first round, he will be all over it.

But who but a fool would trade a first round pick, for a player that was picked in round 1 only a year ago? By putting him on the trading block, AZ clearly tells the world that Rosen was a bust and not worthy of his first round status.

If AZ takes Murray, they will keep Rosen. They might even end up like Philly in 2017. Where both of their QBs consumed less than 9 million of the total cap combined.

Unless that 'fool' comes around and offers up a 1st round pick for Rosen.

If that happens, look at it this way, Rosen would have been selected in the first round, in consecutive drafts. Weird, but accurate.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Yeah, I saw that too. But the only incentive Kingsbury would have for trading Rosen is a trade that blows him away. If he can get Murray and get another pick in the first round, he will be all over it.

But who but a fool would trade a first round pick, for a player that was picked in round 1 only a year ago? By putting him on the trading block, AZ clearly tells the world that Rosen was a bust and not worthy of his first round status.

If AZ takes Murray, they will keep Rosen. They might even end up like Philly in 2017. Where both of their QBs consumed less than 9 million of the total cap combined.

Unless that 'fool' comes around and offers up a 1st round pick for Rosen.

If that happens, look at it this way, Rosen would have been selected in the first round, in consecutive drafts. Weird, but accurate.

Well in the last few years we saw a fool give up a 1st for Sam Bradford so........I wouldnt put it past anyone.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

What I am really hoping for and its a long shot but I want AZ to take Murray #1 and then trade Rosen to us for the 15th pick.

If we give up a first for Rosen I am gonna fight someone

[skinsfan69]

Rosen played on a bad team. Terrible o-line. He's got the talent and the smarts. Way too early to give up on him. If Az is dangling him out there for a 1st I'm sorry but the Redskins would have to take that phone call and listen.

I don't understand the hype for a QB that's 5'9 and 180 lbs, never got under center, played against bad defenses, never huddles. I just don't want those kind of guys early in the draft. Murray is not a 1st rounder. 3rd rounder at the very best IMO. Plus the way he runs around it's only a matter of time before he gets hurt. We've already been down that road.

[Skinsfanatic]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Rosen played on a bad team. Terrible o-line. He's got the talent and the smarts. Way too early to give up on him. If Az is dangling him out there for a 1st I'm sorry but the Redskins would have to take that phone call and listen.

I don't understand the hype for a QB that's 5'9 and 180 lbs, never got under center, played against bad defenses, never huddles. I just don't want those kind of guys early in the draft. Murray is not a 1st rounder. 3rd rounder at the very best IMO. Plus the way he runs around it's only a matter of time before he gets hurt. We've already been down that road.

I wonder if they would take a 2nd and a disgruntled lb or aging cb instead.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

If we give up a first for Rosen I am gonna fight someone

This response was most excellent. I actually lol'd.

And I concur.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

If we give up a first for Rosen I am gonna fight someone

He's the best QB option over any of these draft picks this yr. The guy had no help from his OL all season.

[sandtrapjack]

Plenty of options at QB in this draft without trading away picks. And I seriously doubt AZ trades Rosen after only 1 year when he is still under the rookie wage scale for the next 4 years. Also believe they have several other more pressing needs at #1. And QB is not one of them.

Looking at the draft order and there are maybe 2 or as many as 4 teams ahead of Washington that might be looking at QB in round 1. NYG 2. JAX 3. DET(?) 4. MIA(?)

First look one would say that Haskins, Grier and Lock and maybe Murray are all first round possibilities. You guys have a better than reasonable shot at landing Drew Lock.

[skinsfaninok]

Grier and Murray are the 2 best in this draft IMO, after watching all of these guys tape this yr. People talk about Murrays height, do you realize his OL was NFL SIZE... My guy is Grier but I won't be mad at taking K1 at #15

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

He's the best QB option over any of these draft picks this yr. The guy had no help from his OL all season.

I am talking lead uppercut. I'm not dropping a 1dt round pick on a guy who was given up on 14 games into his career

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Plenty of options at QB in this draft without trading away picks. And I seriously doubt AZ trades Rosen after only 1 year when he is still under the rookie wage scale for the next 4 years. Also believe they have several other more pressing needs at #1. And QB is not one of them.

Looking at the draft order and there are maybe 2 or as many as 4 teams ahead of Washington that might be looking at QB in round 1. NYG 2. JAX 3. DET(?) 4. MIA(?)

First look one would say that Haskins, Grier and Lock and maybe Murray are all first round possibilities. You guys have a better than reasonable shot at landing Drew Lock.

Seriously doubt that the Lions go qb in rd 1

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Seriously doubt that the Lions go qb in rd 1

Yeah, agreed. That is why the (?) next to DET. They might look for Staffords heir in rd 1, or, they might not.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I am talking lead uppercut. I'm not dropping a 1dt round pick on a guy who was given up on 14 games into his career

Not really giving up, just may not fit the style AZ may want.

[skinsfaninok]

Stafford is not going anywhere anytime soon, plus he's not old at all

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Stafford is not going anywhere anytime soon, plus he's not old at all

Agreed. I think Ziggy Ansah is going to try free agency. Makes more sense that they look at DE in Rd 1.