Do you think Rivera will successfully rebuild ?

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by MTK

Every move is technically a business decision. I agree that Ron brings credibility, but he wasn't exactly a total slouch of a coach either. We are talking about a guy with a winning record, multiple division titles and a SB appearance. He was brought in to change the culture in the building and also to win. Those things go hand in hand.

You can't bring in a guy to undertake a culture change as serious as this one but also think of him as a stop gap. That doesn't make any sense. Nobody was going to come in here and turn things around on a dime. It's a 3-5 year project. Dan has to give him a legit opportunity to right the ship otherwise we're back to square one. Gruden had almost 6 seasons here, why wouldn't Ron get a similar opportunity?

Add to that three consecutive division titles, three playoff wins, two-time NFL Coach of the Year...

From day one, this was going to be about a three year project. That much was communicated when RR took the job. Any conversation about him being gone after this year is ridiculous, and the notion that he just isn't a good coach is equally ridiculous in my opinion.

It's funny how impatient this fan base is considering how long it's been since the team has been relevant for more than a minute.

[punch it in]

8 out of 11 seasons he has been a loser, but let’s keep wondering if he is going to succeed…….

He is a loser, it is what he does.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by punch it in

8 out of 11 seasons he has been a loser, but let’s keep wondering if he is going to succeed…….

He is a loser, it is what he does.

It's hard to have hope and believe in Ron's plan......the team has had significant injuries but the team should still be winning instead of losing.......he signed a 5 year contract.....the team should be 4-4 at the very least.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

It's hard to have hope and believe in Ron's plan......the team has had significant injuries but the team should still be winning instead of losing.......he signed a 5 year contract.....the team should be 4-4 at the very least.

Everyone has significant injuries. Our schedule is tougher but we should be better. Look at the game last night. The Chiefs are not good, but they kicked our ass at home. The Giants went into arrowhead and played better than us.

[Burgold]

He has to find a QB, and maybe Del Rio might have to go, but for now I'm willing to stick with Ron.

[JackLord]

Tough for me to answer.

I like Ron. I think he entered a situation that would have perplexed Vince Lombardi and Bill Walsh. He has had to deal with Snyder, Investigations, the Name Change, and general disarray. All the while fighting Cancer.

Normally, I would give any first year Washington coach a pass for the first season. Yet Ron bought us to the playoffs. Yea, it was a crappy division and we had a losing record, but it still was ... something. Maybe this is the year I give him a pass.

Otherwise, I kind of feel like I did just before Spurrier left. I felt great disappointment yet could not come up with a better alternative. Then St Joe came for his second tour.

I am with MTK- I don't know if anyone can do it here.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by JackLord

Tough for me to answer.

I like Ron. I think he entered a situation that would have perplexed Vince Lombardi and Bill Walsh. He has had to deal with Snyder, Investigations, the Name Change, and general disarray. All the while fighting Cancer.

Normally, I would give any first year Washington coach a pass for the first season. Yet Ron bought us to the playoffs. Yea, it was a crappy division and we had a losing record, but it still was ... something. Maybe this is the year I give him a pass.

Otherwise, I kind of feel like I did just before Spurrier left. I felt great disappointment yet could not come up with a better alternative. Then St Joe came for his second tour.

I am with MTK- I don't know if anyone can do it here.

Exactly, its a impossible job.

It be interesting if you could reverse time and have Tomlin as our coach, I bet if he started in our organization over Pitt he been done gone out of football.

This place is losers row.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Exactly, its a impossible job.

It be interesting if you could reverse time and have Tomlin as our coach, I bet if he started in our organization over Pitt he been done gone out of football.

This place is losers row.

It is not an impossible job if we can land a QB. Then the job becomes much easier. That needs to be the entire focus this offseason.

[REDSKINS4ever]

85 wins and 78 losses is what he is.....he's an average head coach at best.....he could very well end up with more career losses than wins if his losing ways continue......
https://www.pro-football-reference.c...es/RiveRo0.htm

[irish]

Ron was light years better than anything this organization could have hoped for. Like MTK said in a previous post, WFT has tried every form of coach so I don't see what firing RR will solve. They aren't getting anyone better.

While RR is an average coach at best, what I do think he has that no coach since Gibbs 2 has is gravitas. He's a seasoned coach who's respected throughout the NFL and on some level Snyder respects that. Gruden had none of that and Snyder didn't respect him. Bringing in another up and coming coach will only be a repeat of Gruden. WFT may as well let Rivera run his course.

[rocnrik]

If RR is let go ( I don’t believe he will or should) WHO would man this sinking ship ? Maybe a lifetime assistance coach on a bad team, Jason Garrett types may take it but who wants someone like that . With a top QB Ron has a Super Bowl under his belt , we need a top QB first then maybe a coach can succeed..

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by irish

Ron was light years better than anything this organization could have hoped for. Like MTK said in a previous post, WFT has tried every form of coach so I don't see what firing RR will solve. They aren't getting anyone better.

While RR is an average coach at best, what I do think he has that no coach since Gibbs 2 has is gravitas. He's a seasoned coach who's respected throughout the NFL and on some level Snyder respects that. Gruden had none of that and Snyder didn't respect him. Bringing in another up and coming coach will only be a repeat of Gruden. WFT may as well let Rivera run his course.

Agreed. Wanting to replace RR after 1.5 season is how we go into this mess in the first place. Id like to give RR at least til the end of next year, no matter how bad it gets.

Even if you want RR gone now .... dont you think hes owed the opportunity to see how he and the team responds to this second half? Give him a chance to right the ship a bit, improve on some things.

[skinsfan69]

You can not fire Ron this offseason. That would be dumb af.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

You can not fire Ron this offseason. That would be dumb af.

It’s not even remotely an option.

[MTK]

I'm not saying he can turn it all around in 3-5 years, just saying he needs at least that amount of time to show some progress.