Brunell

wheeler · 10-03-2005, 02:26 AM

Brunell/Moss BRUNELL/MOSS has a good ring to it ..........and RAMSEY BACKIN HIM UP depth............

Longtimefan · 10-03-2005, 02:46 AM

I agree with your analysis 100% Skinsguy and wish more of us could feel that way. It wasn't a perfect game, but none are, and I'm very pleased to be able to relish in the win. Maybe last year we would have lost today's game, so I do see progress, and that's all anyone can ask for.

On the Brunell Int. I thought it may have been wise for Portis to just make an attempt to knock the ball away since he didn't have much of a chance to catch it. It's possible that he wasn't thinking to do that, but when you tip the ball (espically up into the air) it's likely it just might fall into the hands of a defender.

It seems now that even when we win games we somehow find little things to nit-pick about. It was a great win despite being a little nerve racking at the end.

illdefined · 10-03-2005, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Longtimefan

On the Brunell Int. I thought it may have been wise for Portis to just make an attempt to knock the ball away since he didn't have much of a chance to catch it. It's possible that he wasn't thinking to do that, but when you tip the ball (espically up into the air) it's likely it just might fall into the hands of a defender.

no one can blame Portis or Brunell for that INT, that's just ridiculous. we had more chance to make that catch then miss it.

offiss · 10-03-2005, 04:18 AM

No matter how good anyone say's Brunell played the Hawk's were in a position to beat us at home on the final play, personally I don't lay our offensive woe's on Brunell as much as Gibbs, it's Gibbs job to get it into Brunells head to hit recievers out of their cut's and so on.

IMO we are more talented than the Seahawks, and as talented as any team in the league, it is unacceptable to be in a position to lose at home on the final play to seattle, I don't care what their record was coming in, I have never been impressed with Ray Rhodes on defense, and Holgrum is nothing special, we wont get away with this kind of play against better teams, who IMO we haven't faced yet.

Chicago- no QB

Dallas- no nothing

Seattle- poorly coached

IMO going into Denver will be our first real test.

TheMalcolmConnection · 10-03-2005, 07:09 AM

I was at the game and as was mentioned earlier. He looks like a completely different QB. He made great reads and got the ball to the open guy.

Also, is it just me or does the playcalling seem much improved? Gibbs was running a trick play or two, AND the routes were run deeper this week, rather than those 5-6 yard routes we're used to.

12thMan · 10-03-2005, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by offiss

we wont get away with this kind of play against better teams, who IMO we haven't faced yet.

Chicago- no QB

Dallas- no nothing

Seattle- poorly coached

IMO going into Denver will be our first real test.

I hear you offiss, but here's the thing every week there has been a so-called first real test for our Skins team. Go back and read the threads prior to each game, and pretty much the consensus was that we're facing a much tougher opponent this week, then next week.....and so on.

Every week we have "gotten away" with what some say would call mediocre play and came away with a win. If we happen to split on our next two week road trip, it shouldn't take anything away from our past three victories. Seems like we are a waiting for a loss to confirm our doubts about our team. (not you necessarily) IMO, whether we lose to Denver or beat the hell out of them, I still believe, as do you, that we can play with any team in the NFL.

I don't think Jake Plummer is more effecient than Hasselback, and Denver certainly doesn't have the same running attack as Seattle does. Then on the other hand, Denver's D isn't as good as Chicago's, IMO.

See where I'm going? We've already passed different tests along the way on some level this year, we'll just find out a little more about our team next week.

TheMalcolmConnection · 10-03-2005, 08:50 AM

Well put, 12th man.

Hog1 · 10-03-2005, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Let's also remember that Brunell didn't get much work in the offseason with the starters, so he's still working on getting his timing down with those guys.

Best post in this thread. The focus on a mis-thrown pass, which did not effect the outcome of the game, in what otherwise was an incredible outing, is ridiculous. The numbers for the QB are formidable. The best part is this offense is still a toddler. It is growing up FAST!!!!!!!!!!
And we stil have a few more weeks til' we play another division rival.
at the moment THEISMAN IS A GENIUS

MTK · 10-03-2005, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by illdefined

i thought everyone has a right to an opinion here. it's when you're told to stop expressing yours by admins and moderators that i begin to ask if there's 'rules'.

Who told you to stop expressing your opinion??

illdefined · 10-03-2005, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Why can't we just talk about the solid performance that our starting QB had today without the conversation reverting to the tired 'what would Ramsey do' debate??

and the like.

MTK · 10-03-2005, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by illdefined

and the like.

I think you're putting words in my mouth if you think that's me saying you can't talk about something.

Hardly what I would call 'rules'.

illdefined · 10-03-2005, 10:09 AM

look back and see exactly what i wrote as a response to someone else. for that i get piled on by everybody, admins and moderators alike. even the hint of some opinions are 'officially' unwelcome here. seems like only one way of thinking is "mod-approved"

MTK · 10-03-2005, 10:17 AM

You're really taking things too far Ill and frankly I don't appreciate someone insinuating that certain conversations aren't welcomed and there are unwritten rules here. That really flies in the face of what this site is all about.

All I said was the Ramsey talk is getting tired... I never said you can't talk about this, or you can't talk about that. I never said all talk regarding Ramsey is hereby banned from the board. That's what I would call rules.

Even the admin and mods are entitled to having their own opinions, but twisting that in to we're trying to tell you what you can and can't talk about is a very strong accusation and something I really do not appreciate.

FRPLG · 10-03-2005, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by illdefined

look back and see exactly what i wrote as a response to someone else. for that i get piled on by everybody, admins and moderators alike. even the hint of some opinions are 'officially' unwelcome here. seems like only one way of thinking is "mod-approved"

Dude, chill.
You got dumped on because you brought unwarranted negativity based completly on conjecture into a discussion about a different guy who had a good game. Matty and TAFKAS may be "mods and admins" but that doesn't mean they can't participate in a disucssion like the rest of us. If they think you are full of it then they can say so and that DOESN'T mean they are regulating you with some "rules".

VTSkins897 · 10-03-2005, 10:25 AM

it shouldn't matter if ppl speculate about ramsey. it's only slightly less warranted then any fan opinion. as for the game. i thought that the game was very well played by the offense. though we did complete a bunch of 3rd and longs, i'd have rather seen more 3rd and shorts out there but clearly i'll take it.

and like some people have been saying; the closeness of the game at the end was more of the defense bending a bit than anything. good play-calling really tired out a good SEA offense. they arent the best team out there but it was a great win.

10-03-2005, 02:26 AM	#61
wheeler Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: PHX,AZ ,HOT AS HE#@LL Age: 64 Posts: 136	Re: Brunell Brunell/Moss BRUNELL/MOSS has a good ring to it ..........and RAMSEY BACKIN HIM UP depth............

10-03-2005, 02:46 AM	#62
Longtimefan Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germantown, Md. Posts: 4,832	Re: Brunell I agree with your analysis 100% Skinsguy and wish more of us could feel that way. It wasn't a perfect game, but none are, and I'm very pleased to be able to relish in the win. Maybe last year we would have lost today's game, so I do see progress, and that's all anyone can ask for. On the Brunell Int. I thought it may have been wise for Portis to just make an attempt to knock the ball away since he didn't have much of a chance to catch it. It's possible that he wasn't thinking to do that, but when you tip the ball (espically up into the air) it's likely it just might fall into the hands of a defender. It seems now that even when we win games we somehow find little things to nit-pick about. It was a great win despite being a little nerve racking at the end.

10-03-2005, 04:18 AM	#64
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 60 Posts: 3,097	Re: Brunell No matter how good anyone say's Brunell played the Hawk's were in a position to beat us at home on the final play, personally I don't lay our offensive woe's on Brunell as much as Gibbs, it's Gibbs job to get it into Brunells head to hit recievers out of their cut's and so on. IMO we are more talented than the Seahawks, and as talented as any team in the league, it is unacceptable to be in a position to lose at home on the final play to seattle, I don't care what their record was coming in, I have never been impressed with Ray Rhodes on defense, and Holgrum is nothing special, we wont get away with this kind of play against better teams, who IMO we haven't faced yet. Chicago- no QB Dallas- no nothing Seattle- poorly coached IMO going into Denver will be our first real test.

10-03-2005, 07:09 AM	#65
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,233	Re: Brunell I was at the game and as was mentioned earlier. He looks like a completely different QB. He made great reads and got the ball to the open guy. Also, is it just me or does the playcalling seem much improved? Gibbs was running a trick play or two, AND the routes were run deeper this week, rather than those 5-6 yard routes we're used to. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

10-03-2005, 08:50 AM	#67
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,233	Re: Brunell Well put, 12th man. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

10-03-2005, 10:09 AM	#72
illdefined Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: nyc Age: 48 Posts: 2,631	Re: Brunell look back and see exactly what i wrote as a response to someone else. for that i get piled on by everybody, admins and moderators alike. even the hint of some opinions are 'officially' unwelcome here. seems like only one way of thinking is "mod-approved" __________________ a fan. not a cheerleader.

10-03-2005, 10:17 AM	#73
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,568	Re: Brunell You're really taking things too far Ill and frankly I don't appreciate someone insinuating that certain conversations aren't welcomed and there are unwritten rules here. That really flies in the face of what this site is all about. All I said was the Ramsey talk is getting tired... I never said you can't talk about this, or you can't talk about that. I never said all talk regarding Ramsey is hereby banned from the board. That's what I would call rules. Even the admin and mods are entitled to having their own opinions, but twisting that in to we're trying to tell you what you can and can't talk about is a very strong accusation and something I really do not appreciate. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-03-2005, 10:25 AM	#75
VTSkins897 Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 41 Posts: 890	Re: Brunell it shouldn't matter if ppl speculate about ramsey. it's only slightly less warranted then any fan opinion. as for the game. i thought that the game was very well played by the offense. though we did complete a bunch of 3rd and longs, i'd have rather seen more 3rd and shorts out there but clearly i'll take it. and like some people have been saying; the closeness of the game at the end was more of the defense bending a bit than anything. good play-calling really tired out a good SEA offense. they arent the best team out there but it was a great win.

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