2009 Free Agents

GridIron26 · 03-07-2009, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GMScud

I don't think that's the explanation. Unless we make "cobra" our base defensive package (which would not be smart at all), we're going to need a starting caliber OLB. Even then we'd still want a guy capable of starting on the outside. I think we could still make a play for Crowell.

I'm just sort of curious to see why would you think that it wouldn't be smart move to make cobra as our base defensive package? To me, it sounds like another version of 3-4 defense but faster?

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The Goat · 03-07-2009, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

They should move Chris Wilson to OLB

That's ****ing interesting man, that's ****ing interesting.

GTripp0012 · 03-07-2009, 02:58 AM

And my Suggs idea makes the defense elite (Hayesworth + Suggs + Carter = top 3 pass rush, even given Blache effect), but it also means the best we can hope for in this draft is a third round Center who can push Rabach in camp, and then we wouldn't pick again til the second round next year. So tackle, still an issue in that scenario.

Basically, I don't see an out for Vinny here. Either the defense has depth, or the offense has depth, and we go into the season hoping for great health on one side of the ball or the other. I have no predictive power to recommend one direction over the other now.

GTripp0012 · 03-07-2009, 03:03 AM

The sad thing is, Blades + McIntosh + Fletcher actually make an above average LB corps. The problem, outside of lacking any competant depth, is that Blache will just send 6+ man blitzes, which won't put any pressure on the QB unless Haynesworth beats his double team right off the snap (in which case, the blitzers were basically not needed anyway).

The Goat · 03-08-2009, 08:18 PM

Won't be surprised if Levi Jones becomes a FA after the draft... if worst comes to worst and we weren't able to get an OT he might be a nice option at RT and I doubt he would command big money.

That Guy · 03-08-2009, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

Won't be surprised if Levi Jones becomes a FA after the draft... if worst comes to worst and we weren't able to get an OT he might be a nice option at RT and I doubt he would command big money.

that'd be surprising... and that move would definitely prevent him from getting top dollar, but he's still good enough to get real money.

The Goat · 03-09-2009, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

that'd be surprising... and that move would definitely prevent him from getting top dollar, but he's still good enough to get real money.

I don't know that it should surprise anyone... Cinci is in desperate need of a healthy dominant LT to protect Carson Palmer and at pick 6 they will get to choose from 2 or maybe 3 of the top OTs in this year's draft. Why pay Jones a hefty sum to be a backup LT or even move to RT after the draft?

Ruhskins · 03-09-2009, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

I don't know that it should surprise anyone... Cinci is in desperate need of a healthy dominant LT to protect Carson Palmer and at pick 6 they will get to choose from 2 or maybe 3 of the top OTs in this year's draft. Why pay Jones a hefty sum to be a backup LT or even move to RT after the draft?

I think you're giving the Cincy front office too much credit, although after the bad draft they had last year maybe they have learned.

SmootSmack · 03-09-2009, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

Won't be surprised if Levi Jones becomes a FA after the draft... if worst comes to worst and we weren't able to get an OT he might be a nice option at RT and I doubt he would command big money.

Yeah I've heard he'll probably be cut too

Giantone · 03-09-2009, 08:13 AM

Giants sign Safty C.Brown..............

Giants | Financial details of C. Brown's contract
Sun, 08 Mar 2009 12:19:03 -0700

Mike Garafolo, of The Star-Ledger, reports New York Giants S C.C. Brown signed a one-year deal worth $1 million in base salary with $300,000 guaranteed. Brown also received a $400,000 signing bonus and a $50,000 workout bonus. His $150,000 roster bonus is prorated for each game he is active and he will receive $400,000 if he plays in 75 percent of the defensive snaps. Brown's total cap number is $1.6 million.

JoeRedskin · 03-09-2009, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

Won't be surprised if Levi Jones becomes a FA after the draft... if worst comes to worst and we weren't able to get an OT he might be a nice option at RT and I doubt he would command big money.

I thought he was a solid tackle. Why would Cinci be letting him go? If he becomes available, wouldn't he be the best tackle on the market??

The Goat · 03-09-2009, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

I thought he was a solid tackle. Why would Cinci be letting him go? If he becomes available, wouldn't he be the best tackle on the market??

Jones has struggled w/ injuries the last 2 years and otherwise appears to have declined a bit in ability... he's not a franchise LT at this point and Cinci would be wise to use the 6th overall to replace him... in which case he'd be cut after the draft cuz why pay the guy franchise LT money to be a backup. I just doubt he'd command big money cuz there's really a lot of OT talent coming in the draft... i tend to think 6 or maybe 7 guys from the position will get drafted in the 1st round alone. I'm def not saying this is a good plan for us but just something we might be able to fall back on...

dmek25 · 03-09-2009, 08:41 AM

sorry giantone, never heard of him

Giantone · 03-09-2009, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

sorry giantone, never heard of him

Brown was a four-year starter in Houston — or at least he would’ve been if he hadn’t fractured his right forearm in the Texans’ Week 3 game last season and missed the final 13 games. He had surgery to repair the break the next day, and according to Wiestling he’s now “100 percent healthy (and) was cleared to play at the end of December.” So he’ll be ready for the May mini-camp of whichever team signs him.

At 6-foot, 208 pounds, Brown is known more for his run defense than his pass defense. He could compete for a starting job, though, next to either Michael Johnson or Kenny Phillips. At the very least he’d be part of a safety rotation that is currently only two-men deep.

ChickenMonkey · 03-10-2009, 01:27 AM

Best under 30 and both real needs at this point..Signing them would change our whole draft board.

6. Khalif Barnes, OT: If the evaluation was based on size and talent alone, he wouldn’t even be on the market. But Barnes has had trouble off the field, and gave up 7½ sacks and committed nine penalties last season. He’s still young (26) and if he could get some discipline in his life, he could be a good starting tackle well into his 30s.

7. Angelo Crowell, LB: Some personnel men think his decision-making is inconsistent, but he was undeniably productive before suffering a season-ending knee injury last year. He’s got the size and speed to play inside or out in either a 3-4 or 4-3. If it weren’t for the lag of that knee injury, he’d be long gone by now.

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03-07-2009, 02:58 AM	#3
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 38 Posts: 15,994	Re: 2009 Free Agents And my Suggs idea makes the defense elite (Hayesworth + Suggs + Carter = top 3 pass rush, even given Blache effect), but it also means the best we can hope for in this draft is a third round Center who can push Rabach in camp, and then we wouldn't pick again til the second round next year. So tackle, still an issue in that scenario. Basically, I don't see an out for Vinny here. Either the defense has depth, or the offense has depth, and we go into the season hoping for great health on one side of the ball or the other. I have no predictive power to recommend one direction over the other now. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

03-07-2009, 03:03 AM	#4
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 38 Posts: 15,994	Re: 2009 Free Agents The sad thing is, Blades + McIntosh + Fletcher actually make an above average LB corps. The problem, outside of lacking any competant depth, is that Blache will just send 6+ man blitzes, which won't put any pressure on the QB unless Haynesworth beats his double team right off the snap (in which case, the blitzers were basically not needed anyway). __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

03-08-2009, 08:18 PM	#5
The Goat Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,662	Re: 2009 Free Agents Won't be surprised if Levi Jones becomes a FA after the draft... if worst comes to worst and we weren't able to get an OT he might be a nice option at RT and I doubt he would command big money. __________________ 24-34

03-09-2009, 08:13 AM	#10
Giantone Gamebreaker Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 14,587	Re: 2009 Free Agents Giants sign Safty C.Brown.............. Giants \| Financial details of C. Brown's contract Sun, 08 Mar 2009 12:19:03 -0700 Mike Garafolo, of The Star-Ledger, reports New York Giants S C.C. Brown signed a one-year deal worth $1 million in base salary with $300,000 guaranteed. Brown also received a $400,000 signing bonus and a $50,000 workout bonus. His $150,000 roster bonus is prorated for each game he is active and he will receive $400,000 if he plays in 75 percent of the defensive snaps. Brown's total cap number is $1.6 million.

03-09-2009, 08:41 AM	#13
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 64 Posts: 10,672	Re: 2009 Free Agents sorry giantone, never heard of him __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

03-10-2009, 01:27 AM	#15
ChickenMonkey Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Ontario,Ca Age: 52 Posts: 274	Re: 2009 Free Agents Best under 30 and both real needs at this point..Signing them would change our whole draft board. 6. Khalif Barnes, OT: If the evaluation was based on size and talent alone, he wouldn’t even be on the market. But Barnes has had trouble off the field, and gave up 7½ sacks and committed nine penalties last season. He’s still young (26) and if he could get some discipline in his life, he could be a good starting tackle well into his 30s. 7. Angelo Crowell, LB: Some personnel men think his decision-making is inconsistent, but he was undeniably productive before suffering a season-ending knee injury last year. He’s got the size and speed to play inside or out in either a 3-4 or 4-3. If it weren’t for the lag of that knee injury, he’d be long gone by now.

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