Obama Care

[over the mountain]

Does anyone have kaiser permanente insurance?

Especially in the Baltimore area?

Kinda curious as to how it works. Seems like a group insurance where you go to their medical facilities? I imagine you can outside their medical community if you need to?

Ive been reviewing their offered plans, tons of material they sent and feel pretty good about one co-pay plan which would cost my girl and I $236 a month plus a 30-40 copay visit for medical and emergency visits not considered "preventative care".

or should i wait for this obama health care whatever it is to start. . .if it ever is going to be an actual health care option and not just some fluffery and puffery plan which never actually helps the people who need it.

We cant wait much longer. I dont see the health care plan kicking in any time soon (im guessing a year from now) but dont want to make my girl not eligible if she decides to bite the bullet and just go with kaiser now then a year from now miss out on a better or more affordable option.

Kaisers material was so much easier to understand compared to blue corss blue shield whose stuff was soo freakin unnecessarily confusing you wonder if they dont purposely design their contracts that way so they are unreadable and open to interpretation, pitfalls, purposeful ommissions, etc.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

Does anyone have kaiser permanente insurance?

Especially in the Baltimore area?

Kinda curious as to how it works. Seems like a group insurance where you go to their medical facilities? I imagine you can outside their medical community if you need to?

Ive been reviewing their offered plans, tons of material they sent and feel pretty good about one co-pay plan which would cost my girl and I $236 a month plus a 30-40 copay visit for medical and emergency visits not considered "preventative care".

or should i wait for this obama health care whatever it is to start. . .if it ever is going to be an actual health care option and not just some fluffery and puffery plan which never actually helps the people who need it.

We cant wait much longer. I dont see the health care plan kicking in any time soon (im guessing a year from now) but dont want to make my girl not eligible if she decides to bite the bullet and just go with kaiser now then a year from now miss out on a better or more affordable option.

Kaisers material was so much easier to understand compared to blue corss blue shield whose stuff was soo freakin unnecessarily confusing you wonder if they dont purposely design their contracts that way so they are unreadable and open to interpretation, pitfalls, purposeful ommissions, etc.

The first thing you will see from the Obama plan is an increase in premium so it does not matter. Not sure how old you are but I would not take the risk at my age. When I was in my 20's I did not carry health ins.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by firstdown

The first thing you will see from the Obama plan is an increase in premium so it does not matter. Not sure how old you are but I would not take the risk at my age. When I was in my 20's I did not carry health ins.

I personally have health insurance, PPO blue cross blue shield that i spend buko bucks a month on.

Im 31, when i was in my early 20s i didnt have health insurance either. afte a night of drinking in the gas lamp in san diego i woke in the hospital robbed and hit with a baseball bat to my eye.

i woke up in hospital, cop standig there says "youve been robbed". i got back into unconsciousness. wake up again right as im about to go into an mri tube. got back to unconsciousness.

wake again, this time im able to maintain consciousness, tell doctors i dont have health insurance and that i am refusing medical attention. docotr gets pissed, tells me i have a tripod fracture, etc etc..

i stumble for miles trying to get back to downtown where i live. walk on a bus dont pay anything, im covered covered in blood.

long story short - i needed 20k in facial reconstructive surgery with no health insurance.

luckily there is a thing called crime victims fund which has a max pay out of 20k. money for the fund comes from guys in jail for violent crimes. so if they get $1 an hour for working as a cook in jail, 70 cents goes into the fund.

just got the screws, plates and medical plastic holding my eye ball in place taken out last year.

so yeah, who needs health insurance? just make sure when you get injured its done by a guy with a bat!

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

I personally have health insurance, PPO blue cross blue shield that i spend buko bucks a month on.

Im 31, when i was in my early 20s i didnt have health insurance either. afte a night of drinking in the gas lamp in san diego i woke in the hospital robbed and hit with a baseball bat to my eye.

i woke up in hospital, cop standig there says "youve been robbed". i got back into unconsciousness. wake up again right as im about to go into an mri tube. got back to unconsciousness.

wake again, this time im able to maintain consciousness, tell doctors i dont have health insurance and that i am refusing medical attention. docotr gets pissed, tells me i have a tripod fracture, etc etc..

i stumble for miles trying to get back to downtown where i live. walk on a bus dont pay anything, im covered covered in blood.

long story short - i needed 20k in facial reconstructive surgery with no health insurance.

luckily there is a thing called crime victims fund which has a max pay out of 20k. money for the fund comes from guys in jail for violent crimes. so if they get $1 an hour for working as a cook in jail, 70 cents goes into the fund.

just got the screws, plates and medical plastic holding my eye ball in place taken out last year.

so yeah, who needs health insurance? just make sure when you get injured its done by a guy with a bat!

Walked OUT of the F..nnn hospital??? HOLY SHIT, Chuck Norris have a kid named Over the M....????

[joethiesmanfan]

Despite E.U. rescue fund, Spain struggles with soured private loans

Text book: over building, speculators buying multiple properties. This is what caused Bush to get on national TV and ask for 786 billioon dollars.

[over the mountain]

Anyone have kaiser permanente health insurance?

[over the mountain]

i was numb to the pain there. i was in pain but so much pain and morphin etc i was a zombie thoo.

my chuck norris moment came 2 years ago during the playoffs. me and my girl are cooking all this food before the games, getting everything ready for an awesome 8 hours of football.

i try and pry off the top part of one of those glass peppercorn grinders with a screw driver. i crush the glass, my thumb is split the f open. blood all over the place. i know the cut is deep and not good. i know i should go to to the hospital but my girl is freakin and i dont want to go to the hospital and miss the games and ruin our perfectly planned day.

i say im going to the hospital, she should stay and enjoy the day. she wont have it, insists on going to.

so i say F it, i dont need stiches just a trip to CVS.

so we eat, drink watch the games. monday morning i act like im going to work but head over to hopkins to have it checked out. they said that i needed stiches but 2 days have passed.

that was one of those "fuck my bleeding hand, football is ON" moments.

to a point made earlier in this thread about how hispanic people were mad when you got pulled ahead of line for an emergency. the same thing at hopkins happened that time. im waiting in the waiting area to get a spot in the waiting room. (lots of waiting going on) full of crack heads and old people with breathing problems.

a nurse walks by me, stops, does a double take, then motions me over to the intake lady. they called a doctor from the back to look at me right there. after some tetnis shots i was on my way. there are benefits to being a professional looking white guy.

sorry i talk so long on here fellas. its what i do when im at work

[CRedskinsRule]

Health overhaul may mean longer ER waits, crowding - Yahoo! News

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Health overhaul may mean longer ER waits, crowding - Yahoo! News

Thats not news as most people knew that would happen. Wait until peoples rates jump 15 to 20% because of these changes or their company drops their coverage. The three doctors I know have a plain to pretty much have enough to retire in 5 yrs. when they think the sh!t will hit the fan. I've never really had the time to ask them what they think is going to happen but they all seem to agree with this 5 yr thing. I'll see one of them this weekend and if I get a chance I'll ask him about this.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Everyone, especially those with aging parents may want to read about Obama's latest appointee (not only a recess appointment, but not even a hearing)

Morning Bell: The Rationer-in-Chief | The Foundry: Conservative Policy News.

$ 49K to extend a life one year, just to put into perspective a single cancer treatment costs approximately $ 25K.

This guy is supported by the American Association of Homes and Services for the Aging, the AMA and others in the healthcare industry....because he's going to limit their costs and help them reach greater profitability.

Berwick -- a pediatrician, Harvard University professor and leader of a health care nonprofit organization -- told an interviewer last year, "The decision is not whether or not we will ration care - the decision is whether we will ration with our eyes open. And right now, we are doing it blindly."

[joethiesmanfan]

I am afraid for my life. OOOOH!!! boogey man. It just doesn't have the same shock value Slinging Sammy. Conservatives have been crying wolf the last two years. Gansta punditry is no longer in style. Let's try Emo punditry next time.

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Everyone, especially those with aging parents may want to read about Obama's latest appointee (not only a recess appointment, but not even a hearing)

Morning Bell: The Rationer-in-Chief | The Foundry: Conservative Policy News.

$ 49K to extend a life one year, just to put into perspective a single cancer treatment costs approximately $ 25K.

This guy is supported by the American Association of Homes and Services for the Aging, the AMA and others in the healthcare industry....because he's going to limit their costs and help them reach greater profitability.

Berwick -- a pediatrician, Harvard University professor and leader of a health care nonprofit organization -- told an interviewer last year, "The decision is not whether or not we will ration care - the decision is whether we will ration with our eyes open. And right now, we are doing it blindly."

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Everyone, especially those with aging parents may want to read about Obama's latest appointee (not only a recess appointment, but not even a hearing)

Morning Bell: The Rationer-in-Chief | The Foundry: Conservative Policy News.

$ 49K to extend a life one year, just to put into perspective a single cancer treatment costs approximately $ 25K.

This guy is supported by the American Association of Homes and Services for the Aging, the AMA and others in the healthcare industry....because he's going to limit their costs and help them reach greater profitability.

Berwick -- a pediatrician, Harvard University professor and leader of a health care nonprofit organization -- told an interviewer last year, "The decision is not whether or not we will ration care - the decision is whether we will ration with our eyes open. And right now, we are doing it blindly."

The source you quoted is not jaded at all.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by mredskins

The source you quoted is not jaded at all.

Find a point in the link that is not backed up by facts or evidence, then get back to me. I forgot all my links had to be from the NY Times or Huffington Post.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Everyone, especially those with aging parents may want to read about Obama's latest appointee (not only a recess appointment, but not even a hearing)

Morning Bell: The Rationer-in-Chief | The Foundry: Conservative Policy News.

$ 49K to extend a life one year, just to put into perspective a single cancer treatment costs approximately $ 25K.

This guy is supported by the American Association of Homes and Services for the Aging, the AMA and others in the healthcare industry....because he's going to limit their costs and help them reach greater profitability.

Berwick -- a pediatrician, Harvard University professor and leader of a health care nonprofit organization -- told an interviewer last year, "The decision is not whether or not we will ration care - the decision is whether we will ration with our eyes open. And right now, we are doing it blindly."

Wow, that's terrible....it should never happen. Fortunately it will never happen here seeing how the drug companies run the prison and ACA is private insurance centric. We're going to put a stop to this sort of thing though.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by saden1

Wow, that's terrible....it should never happen. Fortunately it will never happen here seeing how the drug companies run the prison and ACA is private insurance centric. We're going to put a stop to this sort of thing though.

Terrible indeed, and hopefully, when all the hospitals are eventually run by the government there won't be anything more like this.