Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft

[whistler]

Originally Posted by redskins5044

the trade is a done deal, get over it. i will say it again, we gave up 2 #1's and 1 #2. not 3 #1's, we still have a #1 pick this year. we have missed on QB's in the past but the two most recent were Campbell and Ramsey both late 1st round picks. we are going for it hoping to get a franchise QB, who knows if it will pan out.

You forgot Heath Shuler. However, I am for the trade. The skins did the right thing to grab a qb that they think fits the offense, and one who is coachable. If they sat around waiting for a qb to drop in their lap, or signed another teams cast-off it may or may not work. I'd rather had the team succeed or fail with the guy they really wanted and is a home grown product.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by backrow

Pretty much sums up how I feel about this trade, now that it is a week old.

Now I'll vote how I'm not in favor.

That's a lot of our future right there, and I would have preferred to trade back, not up!

I certainly don't want to minimize the value of a first round pick, but we have had good first round picks for the last decade and haven't gotten over the hump. Every single person knows what we need first and foremost is a top level qb. While one or two of the second level qbs most likely will make it I am a cynical enough skins fan to assume whichever one we took will be a bust. Not the best rationale for supporting the trade(assuming general incompetence in a teams ability to pick the best mid level guy) but it is what it is.

[Lotus]

A week after the trade I realize how historic it was. Only the Herschel Walker trade involved as many #1's going from one team to another, making the Griffin trade arguably bigger than even the Ricky Williams deal.

That said, I feel very comfortable with it. If a historic trade gives us a historically awesome QB, I'm all for it.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Lotus

A week after the trade I realize how historic it was. Only the Herschel Walker trade involved as many #1's going from one team to another, making the Griffin trade arguably bigger than even the Ricky Williams deal.

That said, I feel very comfortable with it. If a historic trade gives us a historically awesome QB, I'm all for it.

What if it gives us a guy who has Donovan McNabb's career?

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

What if it gives us a guy who has Donovan McNabb's career?

I would be happy for a few years of DMac in his prime. However, if that is what we get, we will not have gotten full value in the trade. But maybe we get more than just DMac in his prime. It will be interesting to see how this goes.

But DMac is not the true yardstick since we can't draft him. The real question is, will the difference between Griffin and Tannehill be worth 2 #1's and a #2? For the sake of my mental health, I am just going to assume for now that Griffin will be A LOT better than Tannehill. Don't be surprised to hear me crow in a couple of years if this completely blind assumption proves wrong.

[Swarley]

Our first rounders in recent years havent been exactly busts but they never made the difference they should have. I'm ok with losing a 2 first rounders to take a chance on an elite talent.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

What if it gives us a guy who has Donovan McNabb's career?

I'd take that, in his prime mcnabb was a top 10 qb

[CultBrennan59]

Random question which has an assumptive answer but not a known answer as of now; What if Robert Griffin says he doesn't want to play for us?

[Swarley]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Random question which has an assumptive answer but not a known answer as of now; What if Robert Griffin says he doesn't want to play for us?

tell him, kiss my ass and show him the money.

[WaldSkins]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Random question which has an assumptive answer but not a known answer as of now; What if Robert Griffin says he doesn't want to play for us?

I dont think that would be an issue with a high caracter person like Griffin. I mean where exactly would he wanna play if not here? We are a much better option then other QB needy teams like the Browns, Dolphins, and Jags.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by WaldSkins

I dont think that would be an issue with a high caracter person like Griffin. I mean where exactly would he wanna play if not here? We are a much better option then other QB needy teams like the Browns, Dolphins, and Jags.

True but when you compare teams, you'd think San Diego would be no problem for some QBs, but apparently New york is a better place to go...

[Swarley]

In regards to gtripps question:

To be perfectly honest, and don't every one go biting my head for this, I'd take it. A nice run of NFC East Championships and constant playoff appearances is a far cry from what we've seen here in recent times.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Random question which has an assumptive answer but not a known answer as of now; What if Robert Griffin says he doesn't want to play for us?

Then we don't take him I guess idk
Or trade him

[GTripp0012]

My question was more pertaining to the compensation in the trade than to the player. If Robert Griffin looked like Donovan McNabb for four years, I think he's pretty safely going to get that second contract.

But outside of "we'll take it", well, duh, we have no choice now. But would you have traded three firsts and a second to take a guy who ends up having Donovan McNabb's career, or would it have been better to keep the picks and see whats behind the mystery door that is the career of Ryan Tannehill, Nick Foles, Brock Osweiler, or Kirk Cousins?

The point is, none of those guys (maybe Foles or Cousins, but I digress) is "likely" to enjoy a career like Donovan McNabb's career. Griffin's got a decent chance. At least that's the expectation. But would you cash in a multi-time pro bowl career for the chance to draft a guy who could do just as well or better, and still have three first round picks (or two firsts and a second, if Tannehill)?

[Swarley]

Yes, I'm tired of the mystery door.