2011 Redskins Free Agents Rumors and Reports-Part 3

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Even with Watkins and Harris, Philly still has some problems on the OL. After losing Stewart Bradley their linebacker corps is not the best, either.

The Eagles will be good but I'm not going overboard.

Thats the weakness for the Eagles and the only reason the Redskins have a chance against them. Granted a great D-Line can do many things for you but if the linebackers can't find the ball carriers you can run on people all day. With the Eagles though the question will be if you can keep the game close enough where you can continue running the ball rather then play into their hands on defense by trying to throw against their pass rush and secondary.

The O-Line, yeah it's a bit of a problem but it's not nearly as bad as people think. Theres not a single guy that I now look at up front and say "oh thats a weakness. No one is worse then solid in their projected starting 5 of Peters-Herremans-McGlynn-Watkins-Harris. Sure Peters might be overrated but thats it. Actually I say with the Harris signing they've all but fixed the starting front 5 and if Justice is a backup thats not a bad deal.

Also on the chemistry front I don't think they've really added that many players where chemistry is a concern. We know NA is going to play elite shutdown football. Young is a backup, Brown is a backup, Babin is a temporary starter whos being paired with his old line coach, Jenkins can get up to speed by the end of camp, DRC is a nickel right now. Harris is the only real concern and that might only hurt them for a week or two and even then they have Justice to back him up.

Now I don't know how they're going to do in the playoffs and a lot of that will depend on Vick continuing to grow as a passer, but as far as the regular season is concerned I'm confident they'll dominate.

[warriorzpath]

I'm glad that one of the Eagles have annoited themselves to be the Heat of the NFL.

To literary meet that expectation with the skill-level of Lebron and Wade, 9 (two-fifths of the Heat starters) defensive/offensive starters need to be All-Pro at their positions. And considering Bosh, 4 (one-fifth of the Heat starters) other defensive/offensive starters need to be at the Pro-Bowl level.

If you're keeping count that's 9 All-Pro starters and 4 Pro-Bowlers. If the Eagles have an equivalent of that right now, then I guess for the other 31 NFL teams, it might be better off that the lockout is reinstated.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

^

Giants?





You're on a roll today. Replace with Packers, Saints and Falcons and you'd be right. Giants have a lot of holes, plus injury issues (Steve Smith), the Osi issue that could linger all season and of course, their annual problem of turning against Coughlin and choking the last month of the season away. It's been a real problem for many years.

The Falcons? For realz? You can't be serious.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

I think some are underestimating what 3 great CB's and a great defensive coaching staff can do, and Philly traditionally has a great defensive coaching staff. Their offense does not have to be great every game for them to win games.

Well, they fired their Def. Coordinator from last year and have a new staff. On top of that, they are changing their defensive philosophy along with their staff. Nnamdi was necessary b/c Asante is not strong in the def. their going to be playing (In the new defense he will only be as good as Rogers was for us ). They are a small, quick team that can put up points in a hurry. Last year they needed to b/c their defense allowed 24 or more points in 11 games.

While I think chemistry only matters when its very bad or very good, there are a lot of parts that need to come together for Philly to win it all. Particularly on D.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

I'm glad that one of the Eagles have annoited themselves to be the Heat of the NFL.

To literary meet that expectation with the skill-level of Lebron and Wade, 9 (two-fifths of the Heat starters) defensive/offensive starters need to be All-Pro at their positions. And considering Bosh, 4 (one-fifth of the Heat starters) other defensive/offensive starters need to be at the Pro-Bowl level.

If you're keeping count that's 9 All-Pro starters and 4 Pro-Bowlers. If the Eagles have an equivalent of that right now, then I guess for the other 31 NFL teams, it might be better off that the lockout is reinstated.

Nahhh, Reggie Bush took his talents to South Beach.

[JoeRedskin]

On top of that, Philly's new DC was their long time (1998 - 2010) offensive line coach and has not coached defense since being a High School Defensive Coordinator in 1986-1989. Not saying he can't do the job (apparently he is a voracious film guy), just saying that is one more piece of the puzzle (and a big one) that seems to be being overlooked as the defensive dream team is being annoitted.

Philadelphia Eagles New Defensive Coordinator Is… Juan Castillo? | Bleacher Report
(With our luck, he'll be the second coming of Vince Lombardi).

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

Nahhh, Reggie Bush took his talents to South Beach.

Man I'm so out of the loop. By the way who does Baron Davis play for again?

On a side note I would like to claim the idiot of the year award for 2011
http://www.thewarpath.net/nfl-draft-...ward-goes.html

[Lotus]

SmootSmack, any idea why we didn't sign Justin Blalock? In my dream we would have signed him or Yanda. I know Yanda really wanted to stay at home, so it is hard to feel that we failed in that chase. Is the same true for Blalock?

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Lotus

SmootSmack, any idea why we didn't sign Justin Blalock? In my dream we would have signed him or Yanda. I know Yanda really wanted to stay at home, so it is hard to feel that we failed in that chase. Is the same true for Blalock?

He got paid well and gets to stay with a contender

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Lotus

SmootSmack, any idea why we didn't sign Justin Blalock? In my dream we would have signed him or Yanda. I know Yanda really wanted to stay at home, so it is hard to feel that we failed in that chase. Is the same true for Blalock?

Blalock reminds me way to much of Dockery. Even though the Falcons play a Zone scheme. Also part of it might be that the Shanahan's are looking for continuity on the O-Line. Thats why the only new starter will be Chester. Usually the more time an O-Line gets to together the better they play. Guys learn when to come off combo blocks, who to pick up in pass protection, and many other nuances.

Remember the O-Line played much better near the end of last year, I'm pretty sure the Front Office wasn't exactly eager to blow it up so they could go through the same growing pains.

Still go back and watch the videos I posted of Torain and Williams. Kory L actually had a bit of a mean streak at LG. At this point my only concern up front is Monty and even then I feel good about his prospects. I know Shanny likes finese agile guys, but the guys up front for the Redskins all seem to have a bit of a mean streak.

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

He got paid well and gets to stay with a contender

Plus the cost of living as well as the weather is much nicer in Atlanta then DC. Not to mention Tryfuhls point of playing for a contender. Only thing DC has on Atlanta right now is nicer districts like Alexandria where the streets look like they're paved with Gold. Oh and FedEx field is much nicer (at least inside) then the Georgia Dome.

[SmootSmack]

I don't even know how serious the interest was in him. Some have said the Skins really wanted Yanda. But the guys I'd heard since last fall they really wanted was Davin Joseph.

I'm not really sure there was ever a true plan B.

I don't really know when Chester fell into the equation. First I heard about the interest in him was a two or three days before we signed him.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Blalock reminds me way to much of Dockery. Even though the Falcons play a Zone scheme. Also part of it might be that the Shanahan's are looking for continuity on the O-Line. Thats why the only new starter will be Chester. Usually the more time an O-Line gets to together the better they play. Guys learn when to come off combo blocks, who to pick up in pass protection, and many other nuances.

Remember the O-Line played much better near the end of last year, I'm pretty sure the Front Office wasn't exactly eager to blow it up so they could go through the same growing pains.

Still go back and watch the videos I posted of Torain and Williams. Kory L actually had a bit of a mean streak at LG. At this point my only concern up front is Monty and even then I feel good about his prospects. I know Shanny likes finese agile guys, but the guys up front for the Redskins all seem to have a bit of a mean streak.

Not to mention that ine zone blocking, for both the running game and passing game, requires a sense of awareness of what the OL around them are going to do.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Still go back and watch the videos I posted of Torain and Williams. Kory L actually had a bit of a mean streak at LG. At this point my only concern up front is Monty and even then I feel good about his prospects. I know Shanny likes finese agile guys, but the guys up front for the Redskins all seem to have a bit of a mean streak.

I'm sure that the ideal for Shanny would be the Cladys and T. Williams of the world. Agile yet also big and strong. But if he can't have it all, then he prefers athleticism to size and strength.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

I'm sure that the ideal for Shanny would be the Cladys and T. Williams of the world. Agile yet also big and strong. But if he can't have it all, then he prefers athleticism to size and strength.

Well as Chester has shown me, you can be fast, agile, and nasty without being particularly strong. My guess is Schlerth was kind of the same way. He could move and understand angles and while not being Leonard Davis strong he would still use any opportunity he could to get a guy on the ground and finish blocks.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Well as Chester has shown me, you can be fast, agile, and nasty without being particularly strong. My guess is Schlerth was kind of the same way. He could move and understand angles and while not being Leonard Davis strong he would still use any opportunity he could to get a guy on the ground and finish blocks.

"Nastiness" is a mental thing. A strong body is a...body thing that might not be used to its full potential without the proper attitude, with nastiness being one of them. I'm sure every coach wants guys who don't play like pansies, regardless of their physical gifts (or lack thereof).