All things Middle East related

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...-russia-report

Biden authorizes Ukraine to use US long-range missiles to strike inside Russia

Doing this on the way out of office. Was this done for political purposes? It must be as there can’t be any other reason why it was not done sooner.

Biden knows that Trump is about to hand Ukraine to Russia on a silver platter so might as well let them fight.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Clearly not about getting hostages back:
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle...ys-2024-11-20/

Clearly not about ending war or about Israel defending itself
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...aza-resolution


Clearly about genocide

[Chico23231]

Syria war restart is getting interesting. Another blow to Iran and Russia if troops push close to Damascus and force a regime change. Iran corridor to Lebanon could be cut.

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Syria war restart is getting interesting. Another blow to Iran and Russia if troops push close to Damascus and force a regime change. Iran corridor to Lebanon could be cut.

It certainly is in our interests to have that happen, the downside is potentially big - the possibility of an actual genocide (unlike the stupid claims of what Israel is doing in Gaza) against minorities (Shia, Alawites and Christians). We probably need to support our Kurdish and other western supported rebels to seize as much territory as possible to counter this.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by nonniey

It certainly is in our interests to have that happen, the downside is potentially big - the possibility of an actual genocide (unlike the stupid claims of what Israel is doing in Gaza) against minorities (Shia, Alawites and Christians). We probably need to support our Kurdish and other western supported rebels to seize as much territory as possible to counter this.

Think about just how bad it’s been for Iran since Oct 7 Isreal attack

1. Hamas is in shambles and its leadership has been eliminated. A proxy of Iran
2. Hezbollah entire leadership has been eliminated, infrastructure destroyed, thousands of soldiers killed and mentally have been set back years. Oh they agreed to move back beyond the river. An Iran proxy
3 trump has been elected, an Iran hawk and the appeasement strategy of Biden is gone. They immediately cancelled reprisals attacks versus Israel
4. Syria rebels now look to have Damascus surrounded and Iran reportedly have negotiated their militias safe retreat with the rebels. Iran caught flat footed and in retreat. There direct access to Lebonon is gone.

Iran made major miscalculation. They thought Israel would roll over or let this go? Jokes on them

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by nonniey

It certainly is in our interests to have that happen, the downside is potentially big - the possibility of an actual genocide (unlike the stupid claims of what Israel is doing in Gaza) against minorities (Shia, Alawites and Christians). We probably need to support our Kurdish and other western supported rebels to seize as much territory as possible to counter this.

Still self rationalizing the death of 40,000 Palestinian women and children I see. I know you are too intelligent to actually believe Israel is innocent

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Still self rationalizing the death of 40,000 Palestinian women and children I see. I know you are too intelligent to actually believe Israel is innocent

No just pointing out 40K Palestinian women and children (I guess the latest narrative is that only women and children have been killed there now?) does not equate to a genocide. Claiming it is really takes away what a genocide is and undermines attempts at pointing out actual genocides (The old cry wolf effect).

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by nonniey

No just pointing out 40K Palestinian women and children (I guess the latest narrative is that only women and children have been killed there now?) does not equate to a genocide. Claiming it is really takes away what a genocide is and undermines attempts at pointing out actual genocides (The old cry wolf effect).

It's not the narrative 70% of all victims have been women and children that is well documented. This also clearly fits the definition of a genocide:

a. Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group
b. Deliberately inflicting conditions of life that are intended to destroy the group
c. Refusing the movement of medicine and food to a group
d. Intentionally targeting and killing humanitarian aide workers and the buildings that hold those services.

If it is not genocide could we at least agree it is colonialization via murder?

[hail2commanders]

Speaking of Trump, not exactly sure how to unpackage this incoherent mess:

https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status...34273953509462

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by hail2commanders

Speaking of Trump, not exactly sure how to unpackage this incoherent mess:

https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status...34273953509462

Funny he blames Obama yet there have been 2 other Presidents since Obama and he is one of them, he is a DA.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by hail2commanders

Speaking of Trump, not exactly sure how to unpackage this incoherent mess:

https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status...34273953509462

Obama left the Middle East in shambles, Americans were dying from Isis inspired attacks all across the country, isis controlled a large territory in Iraq and Syria committing actual genocide against ethic minorities and fellow Muslims, and Obama administration were appeasing Iran allowing houthis in yeman to take power, supporting attacks against the saudis and other proxy militias were allowed to attack Americans

Trump did a much better job in the Middle East than Obama…it’s laughable to suggest otherwise.

[hail2commanders]

In the tweet, Trump suggests that Obama shouldve held the red line (which at the time folks like Lindsay Graham were warning against getting involved), but at the end of the tweet, Trump says we dont have a dog in the fight. Also says Russia cant do anything there because they are bogged down in Ukraine.

An incoherent mess of a tweet.

[CRedskinsRule]

Russia is abandoning it's bases in Syria. Assad has fled. Astounding how much Russia has lost, in land, military strength and respect, and now actual military bases due to it's over reach in Ukraine. I hope Trump recognizes Russia's increasing weakness and bullies them like he does his political opponents

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[mooby]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Russia is abandoning it's bases in Syria. Assad has fled. Astounding how much Russia has lost, in land, military strength and respect, and now actual military bases due to it's over reach in Ukraine. I hope Trump recognizes Russia's increasing weakness and bullies them like he does his political opponents

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This seems incredibly laughable given how Trump has repeatedly praised and deferred to Putin at every opportunity.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by mooby

This seems incredibly laughable given how Trump has repeatedly praised and deferred to Putin at every opportunity.

true, because Trump saw him in a position of strength. but Putin's facade of strength has been severely weakened and trump may realize that.

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