Obama Care

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

First, the ONLY poll that I've seen Obama under 50% is Rassmussen, which is far right. But most he's between 50%- 53%, let's hope it lasts!

Newt Gingrich? Please tell me you're kidding.

No Newt got a bad rap in the press and is one of the smarter people to have held office lately. You don't have to agree with a person for them to be smart. I thought Bill C was smart I just did not agree with him.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by firstdown

No Newt got a bad rap in the press and is one of the smarter people to have held office lately. You don't have to agree with a person for them to be smart. I thought Bill C was smart I just did not agree with him.

But see that's the thing, rarely does the smartest guy get elected. It usually boils down to who we like the most. Sarah Palin is exhibit A. Newt has waaaaay too much bagage and he'll just remind people of the Clinton years. No way, no how, no Newt! Great bumper sticker.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

First, the ONLY poll that I've seen Obama under 50% is Rassmussen, which is far right. But most he's between 50%- 53%, let's hope it lasts!

Newt Gingrich? Please tell me you're kidding.

NG is a damn genius. No joke. Take away his well earned negative image and just listen to him speak on issues. You may not agree with him but he is the most articulate, well-informed and proactive politician I have ever heard. I think under the bad image is a politician that would do a remarkably good job as president in putting together bipartisan solutions. There's more than one reason he hasn't sought office..one of them is because the idiots who run the 'pubs don't like that he isn't a talking points guy. Gingrich really is an idea guy.

[dmek25]

Gingrich has been married three times. In 1962, he married Jackie Battley, his former high school geometry teacher, when he was 19 years old and she was 26.[64][65] They had two daughters. In the spring of 1980, Gingrich left Battley after having an affair with Marianne Ginther.[66][67] According to Battley, Gingrich visited her while she was in the hospital recovering from cancer surgery to discuss the details of their divorce. Six months after it was final, Gingrich wed Ginther in 1981.[68][69]

In the mid-1990s, Gingrich began an affair with House of Representatives staffer Callista Bisek, who is 23 years his junior; they continued their affair during the Lewinsky scandal.[70] In 2000, Gingrich married Bisek shortly after his divorce from second wife Ginther. He and Callista currently live in McLean, Virginia.[71] taken from wikipedia

this is a smart guy?

[CRedskinsRule]

This was a simple vote that lets the Republican Representatives say we did what you said you wanted, in order to get it accomplished, we need a different Senate and President.

In 2012, when the country "really" votes (and I mean all those who only show up for the presidential elections - about a 20% swing in voter turnout):
the Republicans will point to 2010 saying they tried to repeal it, but need the Senate and Presidency to go along
the Democrats will point to 2008, and say we listened to the whole nation but now the vocal minority is blocking true reform.

Right now, it could go either way (regardless of current polling data)

[12thMan]

Naw, Newt is wicked smaat. No doubt. One minute he's tossing red meat the masses, the next he's saying something brilliant. Funny, I think he and Al Sharpton are working with the White House on education reform.

Talk about Oscar and Felix.

[dmek25]

i don't disagree with the mans intelligence. he is much like every other politician. his words don't match his voting record. he learned a long time ago, which the president is learning right now, the the almighty dollar controls the vote. most politicians are not whom they seem to be

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by dmek25

i don't disagree with the mans intelligence. he is much like every other politician. his words don't match his voting record. he learned a long time ago, which the president is learning right now, the the almighty dollar controls the vote. most politicians are not whom they seem to be

I would beg to differ. Newt pretty much says and votes along the same lines. That whhy the liberal press and the dems attacked him back in the 90's while he was speaker of the house.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I would beg to differ. Newt pretty much says and votes along the same lines. That whhy the liberal press and the dems attacked him back in the 90's while he was speaker of the house.

Hold your horses. NG is smart. Ignoring political winds to stay principled is not smart (at least it doesn't achieve anything in our system). NG played the politics game as much as anyone if not more. See exhibit A: Monica Lewinski

[dmek25]

thanks frplg. you beat me to it

[dmek25]

Despite his lukewarm policy marks, Obama has an enormous advantage because of how people see him personally; a whopping 83 percent call him likable, and 59 percent view him favorably. Majorities also consider him empathetic (63 percent), a strong leader (62 percent), and in-touch with ordinary Americans (61 percent).

The numbers are similar to the ones President Ronald Reagan faced before winning a second term in 1984.

taken from an ap poll

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by dmek25

Despite his lukewarm policy marks, Obama has an enormous advantage because of how people see him personally; a whopping 83 percent call him likable, and 59 percent view him favorably. Majorities also consider him empathetic (63 percent), a strong leader (62 percent), and in-touch with ordinary Americans (61 percent).

The numbers are similar to the ones President Ronald Reagan faced before winning a second term in 1984.

taken from an ap poll

I thought his numbers would definitely cross the 50% threshold, but not this soon. I was thinking more like the Spring.

Republicans shouldn't be too concerned with the shift in sentiment as these things tend to ebb and flow. There is a lot of politics left between now and 2012 and President Obama is in a much stronger position than he was, say, three months ago. Republicans would do well not to underestimate the president right now, people still personally like him and I hope he hits out the park on Tuesday. The longer they drag out this repeal Obamacare BS, I think they'll only hurt themselves in the future.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

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[MTK]

Speaking of the big O he was in my area today. I work near the airport so I got to see Air Force One take off. Very cool.

[BringBackJoeT]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Speaking of the big O he was in my area today. I work near the airport so I got to see Air Force One take off. Very cool.

At the GE Plant in Schenectady, home of the 12345 area code.