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Old 01-07-2018, 09:53 PM   #856
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Jacksonville isn't going to pay Cousins north of 25 million. Ain't happening. Bortles has been pretty solid. They're already in the 2nd round w/out him.

What I got from that the thing w/ 106.7 is he wants free agency. He wants to test the market obviously. He wasn't beating on the table saying he wanted to be a Redskin and wanted to retire here.
He's wanted free agency for the past two years. They should have done a non exclusive last year and let him see what the market for him really was.
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Old 01-07-2018, 09:55 PM   #857
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A lot of bad QB play this weekend. We have a top 10 QB and we don’t want to sign him.
It's not a "we don't want to sign him", it's a he doesn't want a long term deal here. Period. Dan and Bruce dicked around 3 years in a row and now his free agency is going to be on his terms and doubtful here.
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Old 01-08-2018, 12:48 AM   #858
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Bortles hasn't been solid except the month of December and we saw him today. He stinks. Jacksonville has plenty of salary cap room(19 million more if they cut Bortles). Of course they'd pay him.
Just don't see them paying what he wants. They'll be other options in free agency that will be cheaper if they decide to replace Bortles.

Kind of ready to move on from Cousins. If he doesn't want to be a Redskin and play here then so be it. He's not an elite QB yet he's being portrayed as one. It's been three years in a row where he's basically played like dog shit in the last game or games of the year. Sure go to Denver or Arizona and play behind those POS o-lines.

I think the Redskins will trans tag him and see what happens....
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Jacksonville isn't going to pay Cousins north of 25 million. Ain't happening. Bortles has been pretty solid. They're already in the 2nd round w/out him.

What I got from that the thing w/ 106.7 is he wants free agency. He wants to test the market obviously. He wasn't beating on the table saying he wanted to be a Redskin and wanted to retire here.
Bortles sucked today and overall is very inconsistent even with all of those young shiny toys he has to play with. If I was Jacksonville I would be interested in KC, especially if Bortles gets bombed by the Steelers next weekend. KC would have a great WR corp to work with and would have a year like he did in 2016 statistically, if not better. Blake had a good year in 2017, but still is a very inconsistent QB, even more inconsistent than KC. Buffalo will be a suitor for KC. Hell at least a dozen teams could be in the mix for him. I say just draft one or two of these QBs in the draft. Any money saved can bolster the D and give the new QB a real WR or two.
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It's not a "we don't want to sign him", it's a he doesn't want a long term deal here. Period. Dan and Bruce dicked around 3 years in a row and now his free agency is going to be on his terms and doubtful here.
Yeah I think everyone forgets Kirk denied a deal last yr reportedly worth $20 plus million. That shows you he really didn't want a LTD from BA, more of a F YOU to his face.
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Yeah I think everyone forgets Kirk denied a deal last yr reportedly worth $20 plus million. That shows you he really didn't want a LTD from BA, more of a F YOU to his face.

He turned down a lowball offer, how does that mean he doesn’t want a LTD?

You guys really need to slow your roll lol
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He turned down a lowball offer, how does that mean he doesn’t want a LTD?

You guys really need to slow your roll lol
I hope you are right and he does want a LTD but until it happens I'll be concerned, I just dont think he and BA are on the same page.
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Old 01-08-2018, 10:32 AM   #863
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I liked the interview answer where Kirk said he wanted the franchise this last season to see how the offense played without McVay and he feels comfortable with the way things are. I don't think that was a smoke screen but a legit answer.
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Old 01-08-2018, 10:35 AM   #864
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I think he's the first QB to focus solely on the guaranteed money of a deal vs the guarantees that come with a one-year franchise tag. That's all he wants, guarantees.

He doesn't want to turn control over to a team for five years if he's only going to be guaranteed two. At that point he might as well just play on the franchise tag.

It's an excellent point. If the Skins offer 3+ years of guarantees in a 5 year deal, then he'd likely be interested. If another team offers that, then he'd likely be interested in them, assuming they're a good situation in which he thinks he can succeed.

I don't think he wants the highest salary, but he does want very high guarantees.
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I like how everyone has it figured out as to what he wants
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Old 01-08-2018, 12:21 PM   #867
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Re: Cousins Saga 4.0. Is he done in DC?

Just talk to other teams that may be interested in a trade for Kirk. He doesn't want to be here or he would want to get the deal done so the redskins could focus on other team needs/draft. He is not worth anywhere near what it will take to sign him. All you have to do is send a blitz and he will take a sack or throw an interception. There may be a team out there that would want to trade for him because if he gets to the open market the price could be so high that they couldn't sign him because of lack of cap space. Just a thought, not sure though. Got to try to get something for him.
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Old 01-08-2018, 01:16 PM   #868
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Re: Cousins Saga 4.0. Is he done in DC?

Cousins and Redskins are messing up my mock drafting. Have to do 2 drafts now. 1 each with and without a QB selection.

Fire Bruce Allen resign Cousins and make 95% of your fans happy. Seems simple to me but this is the Skins.
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Old 01-08-2018, 01:19 PM   #869
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I've narrowed what Cousins wants down to 3 things: he wants out no matter what, he is 50/50 and will stay if the money is right, he's wanted to stay the whole time but didn't want to give up his hand in negotiations and we've just over analyzed every comment.
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Just talk to other teams that may be interested in a trade for Kirk. He doesn't want to be here or he would want to get the deal done so the redskins could focus on other team needs/draft. He is not worth anywhere near what it will take to sign him. All you have to do is send a blitz and he will take a sack or throw an interception. There may be a team out there that would want to trade for him because if he gets to the open market the price could be so high that they couldn't sign him because of lack of cap space. Just a thought, not sure though. Got to try to get something for him.
He was a top ten passer against the blitz lol
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