Clayton: A 6th round pick for Ramsey

That Guy · 02-28-2006, 05:26 PM

if you look over the stats, volek looks great, schaub looks pretty bad and ramsey is somewhere in between.

Huddle · 02-28-2006, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

if you look over the stats, volek looks great, schaub looks pretty bad and ramsey is somewhere in between.

If you look at wins and losses Ramsey looks much better than Volek, but individual stats can be very deceptive, particularly the QB stats. I think you have to watch them play and then try to adjust your grade according to the system and personnel they had to work with.

I wonder how Tom Brady's stats would look if he had played for Spurrier?

Dirtbag59 · 02-28-2006, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

if you look over the stats, volek looks great, schaub looks pretty bad and ramsey is somewhere in between.

I got a theory on this. I think that if a CBA is reached and the Redskins can get under the cap without involving Ramsey than they will keep him. The reasoning being that with guys like Volek, Schuab, Brees, Garcia, and other quality or manageable QB's out there, Gibbs will convince Ramsey that he will have a better chance of getting a good starting job with another team in 2007 where he'll have a better market. Gibbs has a way of convincing people, and on top of that he doesn't lie when he persuades you. The only team I could concievably see taking Ramsey is the Ravens. As far as the other main teams with interest heres what I think

Dolphins: Brees will sign with them. They're a quality QB away from being an elite team

Lions: Martz wants to prove he can make Joey a winner. On top of that I think Schuab might get a chance there before Ramsey.

Jets: They will draft one of the big 3 in the draft. Probably Cutler

Huddle · 02-28-2006, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Gibbs has a way of convincing people, and on top of that he doesn't lie when he persuades you.

I don't think you'd convince Patrick of that.

RedskinPete · 02-28-2006, 11:36 PM

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I don't think you'd convince Patrick of that.

When it comes to it it isn't his call!!! He is A Redskin to 06!!! Now why I would not let him go for a six round pick.....1-If Burnell goes down the season could be lost. 2-How many times have we seen a so called Stating QB start the season as the number 1 guy and isn't by seasons end? 3-You most likey will not find a QB with Ramseys NFL know how for that price. 4-If I can't get a 2nd or 3rd keep him. 5-Look at past Redskins history look at D. Williams taking over in season to leaded us to a Super Bowl and on and on I could go with this. 5-He just might be what many of you think he is!! A great QB and Burnell just might show he is broken down come this summer[like many of you believe]. 6-Last...many of you may know more about this but if he dose move on next season do we get a pick for losing a free agent that we drafted in the 1st round? I am sure there are other reasons as well but 6th pick shows no value!!! :headbange

Huddle · 03-01-2006, 08:19 AM

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When it comes to it it isn't his call!!! He is A Redskin to 06!!! Now why I would not let him go for a six round pick.....1-If Burnell goes down the season could be lost. 2-How many times have we seen a so called Stating QB start the season as the number 1 guy and isn't by seasons end? 3-You most likey will not find a QB with Ramseys NFL know how for that price. 4-If I can't get a 2nd or 3rd keep him. 5-Look at past Redskins history look at D. Williams taking over in season to leaded us to a Super Bowl and on and on I could go with this. 5-He just might be what many of you think he is!! A great QB and Burnell just might show he is broken down come this summer[like many of you believe]. 6-Last...many of you may know more about this but if he dose move on next season do we get a pick for losing a free agent that we drafted in the 1st round? I am sure there are other reasons as well but 6th pick shows no value!!! :headbange

You quoted me when posting this but I don't think you followed the meaning of my remark which was a response to Dirtbag 359 since you have gone off on a tangent here.

Huddle · 02-28-2006, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Dolphins: Brees will sign with them. They're a quality QB away from being an elite team

Could be, but Brees is months away from testing that shoulder. Will he be strong enough to perform at 100% in 2006? Do the Dolphins wait or take a bird in the hand?

It depends on how they feel about Ramsey.

Dirtbag59 · 02-28-2006, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Huddle

Could be, but Brees is months away from testing that shoulder. Will he be strong enough to perform at 100% in 2006? Do the Dolphins wait or take a bird in the hand?

It depends on how they feel about Ramsey.

Should have screwed the Dolphins in 2004 when we had a chance. Correct me if I'm wrong but I heard they offered a 1st round pick for Ramsey. Personally I believe this being that they gave an early 2nd round pick for AJ Feely.

Huddle · 02-28-2006, 07:00 PM

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Should have screwed the Dolphins in 2004 when we had a chance. Correct me if I'm wrong but I heard they offered a 1st round pick for Ramsey. Personally I believe this being that they gave an early 2nd round pick for AJ Feely.

I read that the Dolphins were, at first, interested in Brunell from the Jags but were unwilling to pay as much as Gibbs. Then, they asked if Ramsey was available and were told no. But I've also heard that rumor about the number one being offered. Of course, that GM was fired so we don't know what opinion the current regime has of Ramsey although Canafora had Miami and the Jets showing interest.

I've also read that at least three teams were interested in Patrick but no hints on who the others were.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 02-28-2006, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Should have screwed the Dolphins in 2004 when we had a chance. Correct me if I'm wrong but I heard they offered a 1st round pick for Ramsey. Personally I believe this being that they gave an early 2nd round pick for AJ Feely.

I remember that they offered the 19th overall pick. Too bad we can't go back in time and take it.

VTSkins897 · 02-28-2006, 05:47 PM

since brunell is so young (in his prime) and our 3rd stringer is an expert in gibbs' offense; i think it'd be foolish not to trade a quality backup for a 6th rounder. i'm surprised we're jippin' them for that much! he's a real big hit to the cap too............................................... .................................................. ........

quality backups aren't important these days...

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That Guy · 03-01-2006, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by VTSkins897

since brunell is so young (in his prime) and our 3rd stringer is an expert in gibbs' offense; i think it'd be foolish not to trade a quality backup for a 6th rounder. i'm surprised we're jippin' them for that much! he's a real big hit to the cap too............................................... .................................................. ........

quality backups aren't important these days...

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tell that to the jets or rams or vikings.

shallyshal · 02-28-2006, 06:48 PM

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John Clayton just said on ESPN radio at about 8:35 a.m. that the Jets would get Ramsey more than likely for a lousy 6th round pick. If we can't get at least a 3rd rounder for Ramsey I say we just keep him. Freakin 6th round pick, that's pretty much just throwing him away for no compensation!

with the breakdown in talks, we might end up just releasing ramsey and getting zip for him

mooby · 02-28-2006, 07:16 PM

ramsey is way better than a sixth rounder. If worst comes to worst, and it was either a sixth rounder or releasing him, i'd probably take a sixth rounder. But please, he's definitely worth at least a fourth.

Skins_4_Lyfe · 03-01-2006, 12:08 PM

This is rediculous...If this is all we can get for Ramsey (a former first rounder), then its no point in trading him. I have the feeling that this league has not seen the last of Ramsey but I'm almost positive that the Skins have. Wherever he goes I hope we find a Tom Brady with that pick so they can look back and feel like idiots.

02-28-2006, 05:26 PM	#1
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 43 Posts: 17,620	Re: Clayton: A 6th round pick for Ramsey if you look over the stats, volek looks great, schaub looks pretty bad and ramsey is somewhere in between.

02-28-2006, 05:47 PM	#11
VTSkins897 Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 43 Posts: 890	Re: Clayton: A 6th round pick for Ramsey since brunell is so young (in his prime) and our 3rd stringer is an expert in gibbs' offense; i think it'd be foolish not to trade a quality backup for a 6th rounder. i'm surprised we're jippin' them for that much! he's a real big hit to the cap too............................................... .................................................. ........ quality backups aren't important these days... ......

02-28-2006, 07:16 PM	#14
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,596	Re: Clayton: A 6th round pick for Ramsey ramsey is way better than a sixth rounder. If worst comes to worst, and it was either a sixth rounder or releasing him, i'd probably take a sixth rounder. But please, he's definitely worth at least a fourth. __________________ Hail to the Football Team

03-01-2006, 12:08 PM	#15
Skins_4_Lyfe Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Upper Marlboro, MD/Greensboro, NC Age: 38 Posts: 482	Re: Clayton: A 6th round pick for Ramsey This is rediculous...If this is all we can get for Ramsey (a former first rounder), then its no point in trading him. I have the feeling that this league has not seen the last of Ramsey but I'm almost positive that the Skins have. Wherever he goes I hope we find a Tom Brady with that pick so they can look back and feel like idiots. __________________ WARRIOR

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